76ers move Ben Simmons to SF?

[SideSwipe52]

With solid point guards in this year's free agent pool, should the 76ers sign one, and move Ben Simmons to the 3 postion (Small Forward)?

Possible free agents to sign:

Ricky Rubio
Derrick Rose
Elfrid Payton
Kemba Walker
Patrick Beverley
Jeremy Lin

 

[Black Adam]

With solid point guards in this year's free agent pool, should the 76ers sign one, and move Ben Simmons to the 3 postion (Small Forward)?

Possible free agents to sign:

Ricky Rubio
Derrick Rose
Elfrid Payton
Kemba Walker
Patrick Beverley
Jeremy Lin


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not trying to nitpick, but I think they shoulda did that with him from the jump...

 

[Gman]

Given how interchangeable the positions in the NBA are now in this day and age... and how versatile a guy like Simmons is... I don't really think it matters much what position you technically slot him in at.

 

[trojanfan12]

Given how interchangeable the positions in the NBA are now in this day and age... and how versatile a guy like Simmons is... I don't really think it matters much what position you technically slot him in at.

Agree.

I'd also add that Simmons issue (he can't/won't shoot perimeter shots) will still be the same if he moved to SF.

In fact, I'd even say that it would make it more pronounced because perimeter shooting is more or less expected from SF's and taking the ball out of his hands limits his opportunities to impact the game. He wouldn't be running the offense and setting up his teammates, both of which he is very good at.

 

[buckalis]

An SF that can't shoot.... interesting but lolable.

 

[rmilia1]

No . They'd be better off moving him to C and Embiid to SF. Your SF needs to be able to shoot. The only 2 spots on the court you don't NEED shooting from are PG and C. Simmons is best fit at PG

 

[CitySushi]

An SF that can't shoot.... interesting but lolable.

You mean the same position that Giannis played for a few years, where he couldn't shoot either. You're like the definition of a face palm.

 

[CitySushi]

Like @Gman said there's no real positional change that's necessary, it's mostly just putting different players out on the court with him at the same time. Basically one scenario has you putting an additional guard on the court, where as with Simmons as a "PG" you have another front court player in the lineup.

It just really depends on WHO they can surround him. Shifting his position is meaningless because ultimately he's going to do much of the same things he's going to do anyways. It's just the plan of attack changes based on who else is on the court with him. There are positives and negatives to both, imo.

 

[buckalis]

You mean the same position that Giannis played for a few years, where he couldn't shoot either. You're like the definition of a face palm.

Giannis played SF only for 3 months during 2013 and the Bucks ended the season with 17~65 (!!!) record.

He was moved to PG for the next season and the Bucks made the playoffs...

After his 2nd season and thereafter, he moved to "PF with a multiple role" ,so that he can do some of the ballhandling (PG) and also some "pick and roll" that CFs do...

I guess talking basketball with you is like talking with a monkey about poetry...

 

[CitySushi]

Giannis played SF only for 3 months during 2013 and the Bucks ended the season with 17~65 (!!!) record.

He was moved to PG for the next season and the Bucks made the playoffs...

After his first season, he moved to "PF with a multiple role" ,so that he can do some of the ballhandling (PG) and also some "pick and roll" that CFs do...

I guess talking basketball with you is like talking with a monkey about poetry...

So basically Simmons and Giannis do the same exact thing but you want to argue over the semantics of the position, in a game which positions have virtually been eliminated. Doesn't surprise me that you don't understand anything about basketball.

 

[DJ Fieri]

SF's need to be able to shoot a 3....

 

[shopson67]

Given how interchangeable the positions in the NBA are now in this day and age... and how versatile a guy like Simmons is... I don't really think it matters much what position you technically slot him in at.

Agreed. What they really need are perimeter shooters that can switch defensively (and to replace the depth they traded away)....and to get Embiid on an offseason training regimen.

 

[shopson67]

Giannis played SF only for 3 months during 2013 and the Bucks ended the season with 17~65 (!!!) record.

He was moved to PG for the next season and the Bucks made the playoffs...

After his 2nd season and thereafter, he moved to "PF with a multiple role" ,so that he can do some of the ballhandling (PG) and also some "pick and roll" that CFs do...

I guess talking basketball with you is like talking with a monkey about poetry...

You're acting like Giannis in 2013 was as good as he was in the years since. Simply not true. A forward can be the player initiating the offense (Lebron comes to mind), but if you're going to spend a lot of time at the arc, you need to be able to hit perimeter shots to keep the defense honest. Lebron improved his jumper, now it's on Giannis and especially Simmons to do the same.

 

[buckalis]

SF's need to be able to shoot a 3....

It's what a 3 does... shooting and scoring! ...eversince basketball ever existed, that's what 3s do!

 

[buckalis]

You're acting like Giannis in 2013 was as good as he was in the years since. Simply not true. A forward can be the player initiating the offense (Lebron comes to mind), but if you're going to spend a lot of time at the arc, you need to be able to hit perimeter shots to keep the defense honest. Lebron improved his jumper, now it's on Giannis and especially Simmons to do the same.

1. I never acted like Giannis was the player he now is back in his rookie season... you surely confuse me for somebody else I was replying on (some stupid kid).
2. I fully agree... Therefore unless Simmons proves he can shoot, it's suicidal for a coach to move him at 3... He can't defend on the perimeter either!

 

[CitySushi]

It's what a 3 does... shooting and scoring! ...eversince basketball ever existed, that's what 3s do!

 

[tlance]

With solid point guards in this year's free agent pool, should the 76ers sign one, and move Ben Simmons to the 3 postion (Small Forward)?

Possible free agents to sign:

Ricky Rubio
Derrick Rose
Elfrid Payton
Kemba Walker
Patrick Beverley
Jeremy Lin


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Walker and Beverly are the only 2 in that list that really make sense to me.

The rest are mostly PGs that can’t shoot. They need someone who can space the floor a bit. Beverly isn’t a great shooter but his defense is elite and his shooting isn’t terrible.

 

[tlance]

Like @Gman said there's no real positional change that's necessary, it's mostly just putting different players out on the court with him at the same time. Basically one scenario has you putting an additional guard on the court, where as with Simmons as a "PG" you have another front court player in the lineup.

It just really depends on WHO they can surround him. Shifting his position is meaningless because ultimately he's going to do much of the same things he's going to do anyways. It's just the plan of attack changes based on who else is on the court with him. There are positives and negatives to both, imo.

Honestly,

I have always thought Brett Brown’s schemes are a really poor fit for Simmons.

Get him attacking downhill off a pick and roll and he is really hard to guard. Instead, he gives the ball up early and basically becomes a post player while Embiid handles the ball and Reddick runs off screens.

Brown needs to use Simmons strengths more effectively. While the presence of Harris and Butler was surely part of that last year, I believe Simmons can be a greater offensive weapon than what he has shown thus far.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Until Simmons gets a jump shot, I’d keep him at the one. Get some three and D players for wings, keep embiid and Harris, and I think they take the East next year barring some unforeseen fa moves.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Um, I don't agree with Jeremy Lin being called a solid point guard.