2024 NBA Offseason

[ducky]

It’ didn’t this year


That’s half the problem

Idk how it didn’t automatically go up 10% with how much smoothing fucked the players last year too

That's because some of the new TV money doesnt hit NBA hands until this year (remember the cap is based on revenue from the previous season).

If they wouldnt have smoothed, the cap would jump an estimated $60M from this year to next year (that is the number I have read). That is the reason they smoothed. They didnt want to see a max player walk to an already contract loaded team like the Celtics/76ers/Wolves team and it still be feasible because of a crazy single year cap jump like what happend with KD to the Warriors.

Just do the math on that BTW. $60M jump in cap means NBA teams this year are raking in $120M more than they have previously.

 

[The Q]

That's because some of the new TV money doesnt hit NBA hands until this year (remember the cap is based on revenue from the previous season).

If they wouldnt have smoothed, the cap would jump an estimated $60M from this year to next year (that is the number I have read). That is the reason they smoothed. They didnt want to see a max player walk to an already contract loaded team like the Celtics/76ers/Wolves team and it still be feasible because of a crazy single year cap jump like what happend with KD to the Warriors.

Just do the math on that BTW. $60M jump in cap means NBA teams this year are raking in $120M more than they have previously.

Stop complete bullshit

 

[bksballer89]

@Mecca offering a player like pg 2/60 to start off negotiations is how you lose them

 

[The Q]

That's because some of the new TV money doesnt hit NBA hands until this year (remember the cap is based on revenue from the previous season).

If they wouldnt have smoothed, the cap would jump an estimated $60M from this year to next year (that is the number I have read). That is the reason they smoothed. They didnt want to see a max player walk to an already contract loaded team like the Celtics/76ers/Wolves team and it still be feasible because of a crazy single year cap jump like what happend with KD to the Warriors.

Just do the math on that BTW. $60M jump in cap means NBA teams this year are raking in $120M more than they have previously.

It just doesn’t bother me at all

The cap is the cap

Manipulating it is something that can’t be undone

Because you’d need to spike it at some point

The cap should’ve spiked last year

It was complete bullshit to smooth it out

 

[The Q]

@Mecca offering a player like pg 2/60 to start off negotiations is how you lose them

I don’t believe him since every report I read said they offered him the same deal during the season and he wanted 4 years the entire time

 

[thunderc]

@Mecca offering a player like pg 2/60 to start off negotiations is how you lose them

The Clippers decided keeping PG didn’t move the needle, and they were right. They got the expected outcome, but they should have traded him.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I don’t believe him since every report I read said they offered him the same deal during the season and he wanted 4 years the entire time

This.

 

[bksballer89]

The Clippers decided keeping PG didn’t move the needle, and they were right. They got the expected outcome, but they should have traded him.

Kawhi being always hurt in the playoffs is the reason for that. Blaming PG is a lazy narrative

 

[DJ Fieri]

I find it very difficult to believe they offered 2 years and 60 mill.

 

[ducky]

It just doesn’t bother me at all

The cap is the cap

Manipulating it is something that can’t be undone

Because you’d need to spike it at some point

The cap should’ve spiked last year

It was complete bullshit to smooth it out

They weren't going to make the same mistakes that they made the last time and have it jump all at once.

They had the cap go up 35% in a one time big jump in 2016 and the team that was in the finals 2 years in a row previously was able to sign the most highly sought after FA in years in the NBA with KD to the Warriors.

They weren't going to do that again.

 

[DJ Fieri]

The Clippers decided keeping PG didn’t move the needle, and they were right. They got the expected outcome, but they should have traded him.

I would have tried to trade Leonard and keep PG to go with Harden and the rest of the team if they couldn't keep all 3

 

[thunderc]

Kawhi being always hurt in the playoffs is the reason for that. Blaming PG is a lazy narrative

I wouldn’t call it blaming PG, but Kahwi is under contract. They had to ask if keeping PG wins a title and it doesn’t.

 

[The Q]

They weren't going to make the same mistakes that they made the last time and have it jump all at once.

They had the cap go up 35% in a one time big jump in 2016 and the team that was in the finals 2 years in a row previously was able to sign the most highly sought after FA in years in the NBA with KD to the Warriors.

They weren't going to do that again.

There was no mistake

That’s just how the chips fell

And the cap will never catch up without a leap


And last years fa class stunk so it was the perfect time for a huge spike

 

[The Q]

They weren't going to make the same mistakes that they made the last time and have it jump all at once.

They had the cap go up 35% in a one time big jump in 2016 and the team that was in the finals 2 years in a row previously was able to sign the most highly sought after FA in years in the NBA with KD to the Warriors.

They weren't going to do that again.

Throwing a fit over a once in a lifetime set of events (that are impossible without Steph having so many injuries on his rookie deal that he gets a sub max extension, and dray taking less money to make it happen) is like throwing a fit for the .1% of any issue


Which….yeah

 

[Shanemansj13]

The Clippers decided keeping PG didn’t move the needle, and they were right. They got the expected outcome, but they should have traded him.

Agree but you don't just trade him to trade him. I think that GS was shit, at least what I hear from multiple sources. For all that I know, that was the only offer they got but maybe if they shopped him last year at the trade deadline they get a better offer...who knows. Either way, they aren’t contending now and weren't contending with him (w/ Kawhi always hurt).

 

[ducky]

There was no mistake

That’s just how the chips fell

And the cap will never catch up without a leap


And last years fa class stunk so it was the perfect time for a huge spike

Its just math. The cap does catch up. You think the people on the players side are so dumb that they cant figure out what the carry over should be?? Lol.

The cap went up 35% in 2016, 5% in 2017 and 2% in 2018. They easily could have just had it go up 10% each year or so and still paid the players the same amount of revenue as they are required to do.

The cap is a competitive balance tool. Having it swing wildly from year to year defeats the whole purpose. That's why any league with any sense smoothes the cap in these situations. The players still get the exact same percentage as they would have anyway and it leaves all teams to play under a somewhat normalized set of rules that arent subject to a single good or bad year from the league revenue perspective.

Look at the NFL and the chaos that was created by the cap dropping 8% after covid. Imagine if they wouldnt have smoothed the cap in that situation and the cap would have been another $60M below that. There would have been teams that literally under the rules of league that wouldnt have been able to get south of the cap number in 2021.

 

[The Q]

Its just math. The cap does catch up. You think the people on the players side are so dumb that they cant figure out what the carry over should be?? Lol.

The cap went up 35% in 2016, 5% in 2017 and 2% in 2018. They easily could have just had it go up 10% each year or so and still paid the players the same amount of revenue as they are required to do.

The cap is a competitive balance tool. Having it swing wildly from year to year defeats the whole purpose. That's why any league with any sense smoothes the cap in these situations. The players still get the exact same percentage as they would have anyway and it leaves all teams to play under a somewhat normalized set of rules that arent subject to a single good or bad year from the league revenue perspective.

Look at the NFL and the chaos that was created by the cap dropping 8% after covid. Imagine if they wouldnt have smoothed the cap in that situation and the cap would have been another $60M below that. There would have been teams that literally under the rules of league that wouldnt have been able to get south of the cap number in 2021.

The cap is over 40m below where it should be

And yes, anyone dumb enough to agree to the aprons is 100% dumb enough to not get caught up

Making an adjustment for an act of god is one thing

Also didn’t the nfl cap just spike for an additional unexpected line 35m???

 

[The Q]

Its just math. The cap does catch up. You think the people on the players side are so dumb that they cant figure out what the carry over should be?? Lol.

The cap went up 35% in 2016, 5% in 2017 and 2% in 2018. They easily could have just had it go up 10% each year or so and still paid the players the same amount of revenue as they are required to do.

The cap is a competitive balance tool. Having it swing wildly from year to year defeats the whole purpose. That's why any league with any sense smoothes the cap in these situations. The players still get the exact same percentage as they would have anyway and it leaves all teams to play under a somewhat normalized set of rules that arent subject to a single good or bad year from the league revenue perspective.

Look at the NFL and the chaos that was created by the cap dropping 8% after covid. Imagine if they wouldnt have smoothed the cap in that situation and the cap would have been another $60M below that. There would have been teams that literally under the rules of league that wouldnt have been able to get south of the cap number in 2021.

1) the cap smoother hurt such giant markets as…Denver and Minnesota and helped small markets like….Philly


2) anyone who sucks down “competitive balance” propaganda….


When all data proves the only thing you need is a strong revenue sharing program

 

[bksballer89]

 

[The Q]

Clippers picking Derrick Jones jr over picks will forever be…a choice