2023 offseason thread

[bksballer89]

I keep forgetting about Clark, lol.

Yep losing their 2 bigs was crucial. I think they are in the WCF without those injuries and may even ended as the 1 seed

 

[shopson67]

Yep losing their 2 bigs was crucial. I think they are in the WCF without those injuries and may even ended as the 1 seed

Clarke's hardly reliable though. He hasn't played more than 64 games in a season in his 4 year career and is a rotational player. His 56 games last year are almost on his average.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yep losing their 2 bigs was crucial. I think they are in the WCF without those injuries and may even ended as the 1 seed

Injuries are a part of the game....at least that is what you have told me when it comes to the Lakers.

 

[bksballer89]

Injuries are a part of the game....at least that is what you have told me when it comes to the Lakers.

Where did i say it isn't a part of the game today?

 

[bksballer89]

Clarke's hardly reliable though. He hasn't played more than 64 games in a season in his 4 year career and is a rotational player. His 56 games last year are almost on his average.

Yeah but i doubt he play this year either. Didnt he tear his achilles or something crazy?

 

[fightinfunbags]

I am sure the players union aren't going to like or allow that.

Players union is weak. They can grouse and bitch but they will get run in the end if the small market owners and together and demand some new rules be included.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Even it changes, all players would do is sign shorter contracts for the max if they have doubts about the organization. Instead of a 5 yr deal, let me sign a 2 yr deal or a 3 yr deal with a player option after year 2. Good luck thinking any top player will sign a 4 or 5 yr max if they add some silly rule to prevent players from demanded trades after signing a max deal

When we are talking the max, shorter deals are more advantageous to teams over players. A player would prefer to get maxed out longer than shorter. Things can change in 2-3 years and they may not be seen anymore as a max player. Shit, wish Tobias Harris wasn’t a 5 year deal he was eligible. Would have loved an out available after year 3.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[bksballer89]

 

[Shanemansj13]

That POS says nothing about his CLE tenure

 

[trojanfan12]

There is really nothing Silver can do about it.

The only way that I see that changing is if teams start telling these guys "You're under contract, so no".

3 problems with that imo...

1. Which team is going first and risking cutting their own throats with future FA's.
2. If teams did that collectively, they could be hit with collusion.
3. It doesn't address the fact that the team can turn around in a couple of seasons, decide they're "going in a different direction" and trade the player.

 

[thunderc]

The only way that I see that changing is if teams start telling these guys "You're under contract, so no".

3 problems with that imo...

1. Which team is going first and risking cutting their own throats with future FA's.
2. If teams did that collectively, they could be hit with collusion.
3. It doesn't address the fact that the team can turn around in a couple of seasons, decide they're "going in a different direction" and trade the player.

First 2 could be valid. Point 3 however is the trade off for guaranteed contracts in my opinion.

 

[shopson67]

The only way that I see that changing is if teams start telling these guys "You're under contract, so no".

3 problems with that imo...

1. Which team is going first and risking cutting their own throats with future FA's.
2. If teams did that collectively, they could be hit with collusion.
3. It doesn't address the fact that the team can turn around in a couple of seasons, decide they're "going in a different direction" and trade the player.

I don't buy point 1. Is the impression teams want to put forth that they are willing to be pushed around?

 

[shopson67]

That POS says nothing about his CLE tenure

It's not his fault he was over-drafted.

 

[DJ Fieri]

The only way that I see that changing is if teams start telling these guys "You're under contract, so no".

3 problems with that imo...

1. Which team is going first and risking cutting their own throats with future FA's.
2. If teams did that collectively, they could be hit with collusion.
3. It doesn't address the fact that the team can turn around in a couple of seasons, decide they're "going in a different direction" and trade the player.

Exactly.

 

[DJ Fieri]

LOL at Waiters thinking he can still play in the League. He needs to go overseas where he can still make some $.

 

[fightinfunbags]

The only way that I see that changing is if teams start telling these guys "You're under contract, so no".

3 problems with that imo...

1. Which team is going first and risking cutting their own throats with future FA's.
2. If teams did that collectively, they could be hit with collusion.
3. It doesn't address the fact that the team can turn around in a couple of seasons, decide they're "going in a different direction" and trade the player.

Or a rule that is lilting for both the team and the player. It’s not unprecedented. They already have rules in place that limit when a guy can be traded after he signs a new deal. Here it is:

Players who sign for a super max deal can not be traded for two calendar years after signing the contract. I think 2 years is a fair number so the small market team gets at least two years of run out of the player before shenanigans can happen.

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's not his fault he was over-drafted.

There were definitely some better options but the Cavs weren't going to take Dame after drafting Kyrie.

Yeah it is, too bad he didn't get hurt at Cuse...would have saved the Cavs

 

[Shanemansj13]

It's too bad Beal went at 3. Kyrie and Beal is nice then add Lebron when he came back + Love trade. A ton of shooting around him.

 

[Shanemansj13]