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2023 offseason thread

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You may have to take back 1 bad player....if you get 2 other useful players?
Not in a Harden deal. In a Tobias Harris deal I would agree. But Harden >>>> Powell or the Clippers aren’t doing this at all. People here are down on Harden and so am I but at the end of the day, he’s still a 20 and 10 guy. Morey showed during the Ben Simmons drama that he will hold on to an asset until a deal makes sense. If the word on the street is legit and Kawhi and PG13 want Harden and Balmer wants to open his arena with excitement, I don’t see how them refusing a deal if it doesn’t include Morris actually becomes a deal breaker.
 

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Not a bad night for Chet @thunderc . 4 blocks. 15 points and 9 boards. Only shooting 1 three you’d like to see him shoot a higher percentage but overall not a bad box score. I didn’t watch any of the game though. What did you think?
 

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It depends on what comes back in the Dame trade but Simons is a guy that I could see them moving in a separate deal after all this shakes out. Does anyone know Portland’s cap situation? Can they take back a bigger contract than what goes out?
After Grant....they are at 145 mill right now.
 

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And somebody has to go with Brown...Brown and a pick or 2 for Dame doesn't work.
 

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Not sure if Portland exercised their options on Kevin Knox and Keon Johnson either. But combined that is just 5.8 mill. If so they have just 9 guys under contract
 

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And somebody has to go with Brown...Brown and a pick or 2 for Dame doesn't work.
Brown Horford and a 2025 1st from the Celtics get it done?
 

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This conversation started because you said you thought Shaq would “destroy” Embiid and be the best player in the league.

My point is that Embiid is a better player. He can move his feet defensively and is better suited to guard in today’s game where Shaq would have trouble.
I did and I stand by it. This is the same guy Timmy and David Robinson playing together couldn’t stop. The same guy Dikembe Mutombo had no answer for. Look I get it, Embiid is the more skilled big Man…but so were Duncan, Robinson, and KG, and nobody can tell me with a straight face these 3 were better than Shaq.

Even in today’s NBA, I don’t believe for one second KG and Duncan would be better players than Shaq. He was just so dominant physically that nobody could contain him.

I see where you’re coming from though, I just believe Shaq was built different and would be a great player regardless of the ERA he played.
 

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Was thinking Horford to backup Nurkic.
Horford’s presence on the roster allows them to dump Nurkic and not worry about the 5 position. Additionally, Horford would help space allowing Scoot to develop early with paint to work in getting to the rim.
 

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Horford’s presence on the roster allows them to dump Nurkic and not worry about the 5 position. Additionally, Horford would help space allowing Scoot to develop early with paint to work in getting to the rim.
They need players....if Knox and Johnson had their options exercised they only have 9 guys right now...

10 with Grant actually.
 

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I'd be shocked if the Celtics traded Brown plus for Dame.... or gutted their front court and depth for Dame.

We're firmly in the realm of idle talk here.
 

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I'd be shocked if the Celtics traded Brown plus for Dame.... or gutted their front court and depth for Dame.

We're firmly in the realm of idle talk here.
Brown and Horford plus a pick is too much?

You could use Kornet as a backup big or sign some guy....Bamba is still out there....and you only need somebody for 13-15mpg or so.

Lilliard, Tatum and Porzy is a really good trio....especially if Porzy is yr #3....and you have your closer for the playoffs....
 

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Brown and Horford plus a pick is too much?

You could use Kornet as a backup big or sign some guy....Bamba is still out there....and you only need somebody for 15mpg or so.

Lilliard, Tatum and Porzy is a really good trio....especially if Porzy is yr #3....and you have your closer for the playoffs....
Now that they have Porzingas, I don’t know what role Horford plays going forward to be honest.
 

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Brown and Horford plus a pick is too much?
I didn't say that... I said I don't see it happening.

I don't think Portland would be keen on a Brown-centered package... because I don't believe they have any degree of certainty that they can keep Brown long term.
 

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Now that they have Porzingas, I don’t know what role Horford plays going forward to be honest.
RWIII and Horford are not 35 mpg guys (even in the playoffs)... and all 3 of RWIII, Zinger and Horford need load management all season long.
 

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I didn't say that... I said I don't see it happening.

I don't think Portland would be keen on a Brown-centered package... because I don't believe they have any degree of certainty that they can keep Brown long term.
I think that is a deal they would go for....they have a lot of guards but not a lot of players in general....he could play SF or they could deal somebody....Simons most likely.
 

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Not a bad night for Chet @thunderc . 4 blocks. 15 points and 9 boards. Only shooting 1 three you’d like to see him shoot a higher percentage but overall not a bad box score. I didn’t watch any of the game though. What did you think?
He definitely looked like he hadn’t played in a year I thought. Had a couple bad turnover and wasn’t very smooth. To be expected though. I was surprised he played as many minutes as he did.
 

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RWIII and Horford are not 35-40 mpg guys (even in the playoffs)... and all 3 of RWIII, Zinger and Horford need rest management.
You are a better team with Dame and Porzy....you can figure out the rest later. You get yr big in Porzy and closer in Dame....

Sign a backup big and use Kornet as yr 3rd string C.
 

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You are a better team with Dame and Porzy....you can figure out the rest later. You get yr big in Porzy and closer in Dame....

Sign a backup big and use Kornet as yr 3rd string C.
They already have him in RWIII
 
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