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2022 Rosterbation

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So far, there haven’t been many/any FAs that signed elsewhere that I feel “Dang, I wish WE had that guy at that price and years”.
There have been many deals this offseason that I've found puzzling (in terms of years and/or dollars given).
 

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I think Stroman and Taylor were good fits for us at the price they signed for. Apparently, Taylor wanted to remain a phuking dog hair though.
 

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I think Stroman and Taylor were good fits for us at the price they signed for. Apparently, Taylor wanted to remain a phuking dog hair though.
I haven’t seen what Stroman signed for ($$ or years), but I thought he would have been a great fit.
 

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That’s a lot of coin, but essentially just a 2/50. I think I would have been OK with that. Slotting him in at #2 would have really solidified the rotation.
Considering who is left on the market, I do wonder if the Giants will fill that rotation spot with a trade. Consider who would be, arguably, the top 10 remaining free agent starters:
Carlos Rodon, Clayton Kershaw, Danny Duffy, Matthew Boyd, Wily Peralta, Kwang-Hyun Kim, Michael Pineda, Johnny Cueto, Yusei Kikuchi, Zach Greinke
 

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Imagine the shitshow we would be in had Webb not developed into an ace, essentially out of nowhere?
 

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Imagine the shitshow we would be in had Webb not developed into an ace, essentially out of nowhere?
Call me a pessimist but I wouldn't be surprised if Webb takes a step or two back. I thought he was better than his 2020 showing and was excited about how he did in 2021 but a little surprised at how well he did. If he does have a rough road of things in 2022, how he adjusts could just make him better long term.
 

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Don’t hit me, but I kinda want Kershaw if it’s a short term contract (like 2 years).
 

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Call me a pessimist but I wouldn't be surprised if Webb takes a step or two back. I thought he was better than his 2020 showing and was excited about how he did in 2021 but a little surprised at how well he did. If he does have a rough road of things in 2022, how he adjusts could just make him better long term.
That is absolutely a possibility. The league will adjust to him and he will need to readjust back (rinse and repeat). So far, he has put together about 4 months worth of Bumgarner-like performance. That is great. It LOOKS real, but he will need to build on that (and improve) to have any extended success at the MLB level.
 

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Of the FA pitchers left, I'm intrigued by Rodon. High upside/high risk but should be gettable on a short contract. That said, I could see a trade with the Reds or A'ss too.

FWIW, Reyes Moronta is pitching in the Mexican League and dominating. He's a FA.
 

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Of the FA pitchers left, I'm intrigued by Rodon. High upside/high risk but should be gettable on a short contract. That said, I could see a trade with the Reds or A'ss too.

FWIW, Reyes Moronta is pitching in the Mexican League and dominating. He's a FA.
I'm good with Rodon, on the right deal.

I'd like to see Moronta come back with an invitation to spring training. Since he's a minor league free agent, I believe the Giants can still sign him during the freeze (if I'm understanding the rules correctly, only "big league" free agents are prohibited from contact with clubs).
 

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I agree that keeping Bryant is not likely. And I am OK with that.

But we still have approx 100m that we CAN spend, so I don’t see money as an obstacle in getting Suzuki. If FZ likes him, and he is open to coming to SF, I don’t see us NOT getting him. However, if he wants to play for Team X instead, there really isn’t anything we can do about that. That said, I know next to nothing about Suzuki. Maybe FZ is only lukewarm on him, so he isn’t willing to over pay for him. If that is the case, I bow to his judgement.
 

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Considering who is left on the market, I do wonder if the Giants will fill that rotation spot with a trade. Consider who would be, arguably, the top 10 remaining free agent starters:
Carlos Rodon, Clayton Kershaw, Danny Duffy, Matthew Boyd, Wily Peralta, Kwang-Hyun Kim, Michael Pineda, Johnny Cueto, Yusei Kikuchi, Zach Greinke
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The news changes almost daily, but today’s rankings seem to have us in the pole position to get Suzuki.
 

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The news changes almost daily, but today’s rankings seem to have us in the pole position to get Suzuki.
 
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