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2022-23 Flyers: How about just less suck?

Chris p Bacon

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We need to purge this team and get draft picks or get good young players like Tippett back. No free agent is going to help us as we are at the very least 3 years away from contending for a playoff run.
I agree, but you need some kind of leadership going forward, I'm assuming Laughton or Coots will get the "C", but you still need someone on the defensive side to be a leader too, and I just don't see one in our current roster. Doesn't necessarily have to be a huge name guy, but maybe someone very blue collar and a solid resume, and could be had for some of the money we were paying JVR.
 

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I agree, but you need some kind of leadership going forward, I'm assuming Laughton or Coots will get the "C", but you still need someone on the defensive side to be a leader too, and I just don't see one in our current roster. Doesn't necessarily have to be a huge name guy, but maybe someone very blue collar and a solid resume, and could be had for some of the money we were paying JVR.
With Risto having a solid second half and being on the team for a few years now he should be our leader on defense for the next couple of years while we stink. Whichever one doesn't get traded Prov/Sanhein will also be a defensive leader.

In 4 years our leader on defense will be Cam York a natural born leader and he will be 26 years old in 4 years and will be our top defenseman.
 

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With Risto having a solid second half and being on the team for a few years now he should be our leader on defense for the next couple of years while we stink. Whichever one doesn't get traded Prov/Sanhein will also be a defensive leader.

In 4 years our leader on defense will be Cam York a natural born leader and he will be 26 years old in 4 years and will be our top defenseman.
Really, Ristolinan? That dude sucks and continued to suck the whole season. He had like 5 decent games, and a few decent hits. He's a constant liability, slow over paid hack! You don't pay a fuckin dude grips of money to only have 20 points and a -4 rating. Like I said, we have no one on defense who is a leader.
 

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Really, Ristolinan? That dude sucks and continued to suck the whole season. He had like 5 decent games, and a few decent hits. He's a constant liability, slow over paid hack! You don't pay a fuckin dude grips of money to only have 20 points and a -4 rating. Like I said, we have no one on defense who is a leader.
I cant fault you for your hatred of him as he will never live up to the contract that we gave him nor the picks we gave up for him so i agree with that. He did have a very good second half of the season though and we dont have any cap money to sign a free agent that you want so Risto or Prov/Sanheim it will have to be for now until York is ready.
 

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I cant fault you for your hatred of him as he will never live up to the contract that we gave him nor the picks we gave up for him so i agree with that. He did have a very good second half of the season though and we dont have any cap money to sign a free agent that you want so Risto or Prov/Sanheim it will have to be for now until York is ready.
It's not just a hate thing for him, but what player is going to look to that guy to lead them? Maybe if he wasn't as soft as medicated cotton, then maybe. If Braun is gone, and DeAngelo gets traded and the JVR contract being up, I personally think a move could be made. Guess we'll have to see how things shake out, as I'm also hearing Hayes will be departing this off-season. It's the rumor Mill going full force.
 

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Heh. Gotta be the biggest 'what if' in the cap-era for the Flyers. If they get Kane instead of JvR and they can keep the partying even moderately in check, the Flyers probably win multiple cups in the early 2010s.

Maybe we'll get to do that to the BJs or Hawks this time around!
If I'm not mistaken, the Flyers have met an eventual dynasty in the Cup Finals nearly every single time that they get there. In 2010, it was Chicago, largely as you say because they were lucky enough to pass us in the draft lottery (to draft Kane) from the 5th spot, I believe.

This is why we are only 2-6 at winning the Stanley Cup. I'm not old enough to remember the losses in the 70's and 80's, but I definitely remember '97 and '10.

Fucking Eric Lindros. Dominant player for much of his concussion-shortened career, but I believe that '97 team was FAVORED in the finals and they got their asses swept.
 
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This and the fact that we have never drafted #1 overall in the Nhl Entry Draft, leads me to believe that we actually have a shot at getting lucky here.
 

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Bacon i checked the free agent defensemen for next year and here are some of the available candidates:

Eric Gustaffson
Michael DelZotto
Justin Braun
Luke Schenn
Robert Hagg
Radko Gudas
Shane Gostisbehere
 

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Bacon i checked the free agent defensemen for next year and here are some of the available candidates:

Eric Gustaffson
Michael DelZotto
Justin Braun
Luke Schenn
Robert Hagg
Radko Gudas
Shane Gostisbehere

Bring back Ghost! :D

More seriously, Luke Schenn has won 2 cups. If the basis is leadership, I think he's the best choice.
 

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Bacon i checked the free agent defensemen for next year and here are some of the available candidates:

Eric Gustaffson
Michael DelZotto
Justin Braun
Luke Schenn
Robert Hagg
Radko Gudas
Shane Gostisbehere
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Bring back Ghost! :D

More seriously, Luke Schenn has won 2 cups. If the basis is leadership, I think he's the best choice.
I dont want anyone standing in the way of Zamula ,Attard and Andrae. We can suck the next 2/3 years with Risto and Sanheim/Prov as our leaders on the back end. We also drafted Hunter McDonald and Brian Zanetti in the last 2 years.
 

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So, it looks like 6 of the 8 home teams lost their opening playoff game, including BOTH of the top seeds in the West. There should be a round robin played by Boston, Tampa, Carolina and NYR. Winner gets the Cup. Nobody else looks even remotely worthy. It's a shame that we even have to see a western conference team in the final.
 

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Bacon i checked the free agent defensemen for next year and here are some of the available candidates:

Eric Gustaffson
Michael DelZotto
Justin Braun
Luke Schenn
Robert Hagg
Radko Gudas
Shane Gostisbehere
I'd take Gudas or Ghost, but honestly Gudas first. Guy was always all Hussle all the time. He could be a good leader for like a 2-3 year deal. Maybe show Ristolinan what heart looks like.
 

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I'd take Gudas or Ghost, but honestly Gudas first. Guy was always all Hussle all the time. He could be a good leader for like a 2-3 year deal. Maybe show Ristolinan what heart looks like.
Gudas and Ghost will certainly not want to be on a rebuilding team for 2-3 years unless we overpay them by several millions of dollars. That will put us right back to where we were with Ghost getting paid too much for his production. Don't you remember when this board hated him when he was making only 4.5 million a year. We will have to pay him more than that to play for us again while rebuilding.
 
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