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2022-2023 NBA Season Thread

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Simmons didn't have nearly the hype of LeBron or Wem. Neither did Zion.
True. At the same time, there were a whole ton of people talking “unicorn” with Ben Simmons because he had guard skills in a Big’s body.
 

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True. At the same time, there were a whole ton of people talking “unicorn” with Ben Simmons because he had guard skills in a Big’s body.
Nothing is a lock, for sure. Wem might disappoint, he might have injury issues, etc. But the promise is greater than most other 'can't miss' guys.
 

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Nothing is a lock, for sure. Wem might disappoint, he might have injury issues, etc. But the promise is greater than most other 'can't miss' guys.

If there is any karma or justice on the world he makes oden look durable
 

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If there is any karma or justice on the world he makes oden look durable
That's kind of a shitty thing to say about a kid. Get over it.
 

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That's kind of a shitty thing to say about a kid. Get over it.

I’m not rooting for it for him

Js the spurs as a franchise deserve it and basically anything else up to and including getting hit by meteor
 

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I’m not rooting for it for him

Js the spurs as a franchise deserve it and basically anything else up to and including getting hit by meteor
Still bad form, rooting for injuries. Get over it.
 

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This means that Tatum and Brown haven't come close to reaching their peak. This league is fucked when they get there
I just don’t think the Celtics can hamstring themselves with 2 supermax guys. Something is going to change.
 

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I just don’t think the Celtics can hamstring themselves with 2 supermax guys. Something is going to change.

Oh I don't either from a long term perspective and for a couple of other Brown specific reasons I don't feel like getting into right now. I was mostly just cracking jokes on Perk.
 

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Those once every 20 year guys can also become Ben Simmons.

They can.

And until he does he is completely untradeable.

Ben Simmons was basically untradeable too until he came off that rookie contract.

6ers had about a year and a half where they realistically could have moved him before the steep drop in value.
 

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Meyers officially resigned yesterday. I think Kerr goes to ownership and tells them he would like to be the new GM and Kenny Atkinson takes over for him as HC.
 

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They can.

And until he does he is completely untradeable.

Ben Simmons was basically untradeable too until he came off that rookie contract.

6ers had about a year and a half where they realistically could have moved him before the steep drop in value.

Ben Simmons is again untradeable.
 

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They talked themselves into trying to see Lebron or Magic instead of seeing Dray.
In fairness to them, how do you project a player being scared to shoot? You can’t see that coming.
 

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I just don’t think the Celtics can hamstring themselves with 2 supermax guys. Something is going to change.

I don't see it happening now though. I think they pay Brown and figure it out a year later down the line. Both Brown and Tatum as still young (26 and 25, younger than when most stars got their first rings). Fix things around the periphery this year (maybe replace Smart and Horford), maybe another coaching change...
 

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In fairness to them, how do you project a player being scared to shoot? You can’t see that coming.

True, but at the very least settle him on a dominant shooting hand lol. Also, projecting potential 3 pt range because he hit 33% in college (on only 3 attempts), look at the 67% FT and back off those projections a little. A 6'10 player that doesn't shoot the 3 is going to struggle as a perimeter player.

If not for his enormous salary, I think he's fixable in the right program with the right coaching. Gotta be a Dray-style role though, defense/rebounding with the occasional offensive production. Unfortunately, the salary reboot doesn't come until summer of 2025.
 

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I can't see that at all. What interest should the Celtics have in Trae, Collins, or Capela? At least in trade for Brown? Maybe something could be put together with the Hawks for other Celtics pieces, but not Brown IMO. I suppose maybe a 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 around Murray maybe?
 
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