2022-2023 NBA Season Thread

[trojanfan12]

Dirk wasn’t a good defender.

Harden wasn’t a good defender.

Neither was Westbrook.

Magic and Bird weren't exactly considered elite defenders.

 

[shopson67]

* Looks like, not is.

I agree with him.

Do you agree that Luka is no longer a superstar level player though in favor of an unproven kid (like Luka once was)?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

You do know he got to a conference finals already right?

Yep in the bubble

 

[bksballer89]

Yep in the bubble

Bubble was more of a real season than 2021

 

[shopson67]

Hes 7 foot 2

Only 4 guys shooting better than 66% this year, all take fewer shots.

 

[shopson67]

Damn I hope not

I'm not buying it. How many times does he have to repeat that he wants to stay?

 

[Wamu]

For me it's not even defense. If his team was winning ships I wouldn't care. ->You can't be 3 time and never reach a WCF in that time frame.<-

Totally agree. When Russell, Wilt & Bird 3-peated as MVP they were winning titles.

 

[shopson67]

Harden gets hurt in the first half of the Bulls loss. W vs Bulls w/o Harden Bulls had no DeRozan. L vs Warriors no Harden. L vs Suns no Harden. When they have all the pieces they’re good. When they don’t, they’re not.

Another example of shifting rules though, right? When Jokic is missing his #2 and #3 for big chunks of the previous two years, you hold it against him when his team is a lower seed or doesn't get it done in the playoffs.

 

[bksballer89]

Another example of shifting rules though, right? When Jokic is missing his #2 and #3 for big chunks of the previous two years, you hold it against him when his team is a lower seed or doesn't get it done in the playoffs.

Yep lol guy is amazing

 

[shopson67]

It's all good. 'Generational talent' can mean different things to different people

1960s: Wilt, Russell
1970s: Kareem...Dr. J?
1980s: Magic, Bird
1990s: Jordan, Hakeem?
2000s: Shaq, Duncan
2010s: LeBron, Curry

Kobe?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Do you agree that Luka is no longer a superstar level player though in favor of an unproven kid (like Luka once was)?

No.

I still have Luka in the should be/will be category.

Again: Different era, different criteria.

For me, I ask myself if a guy like Luka could do the things he’s doing in the 90’s and 2000’s.

For me, the answer is yes.

With that being said….Giannis is the only guy I have written in permanent ink in the 2020’s.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[shopson67]

I’d be shocked if it went Embiid’s way. They’ve been looking for a reason and they got it today. Congrats to Nikola “It’s A Regular Season Award” Jokic for his third straight MVP.

I thought your vote was for Giannis?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Yep. Or, as a couple of other folks said, sit him vs. the Suns who were without KD and play him against Joker and the Nugs.

The way it was done is kind of a bad look.

Yep.

….and this is not personal towards Embiid.

I would have said the same if Jokic sat out.

 

[shopson67]

Nice, but he shuffled his feet before the pass.

 

[shopson67]

No.

I still have Luka in the should be/will be category.

Again: Different era, different criteria.

For me, I ask myself if a guy like Luka could do the things he’s doing in the 90’s and 2000’s.

For me, the answer is yes.

With that being said….Giannis is the only guy I have written in permanent ink in the 2020’s.

But in comparison to Vic, that's at worst in the same category.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Only 4 guys shooting better than 66% this year, all take fewer shots.

Come on, Dude.

Why are you dying in this hill?

Rudy is not a good offensive player.

Never has been.

His range is the length of his arm.

 

[shopson67]

Embiid has skipped the last 4 matchups in Denver. Awesome work for a guy who has a great head to head record against someone when he decides he only wants to play him at home.

...or not at elevation?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

But in comparison to Vic, that's at worst in the same category.

Ok?

But, how does that change the fact that Vic LOOKS LIKE HE COULD be a franchise player?

If the criteria is we are only using 2 guys, we have a plethora to chose from.

For me, Giannis is the only guy that gets a spot not even 3 years into the decade.

But, Luka, JA, Tatum, Joker, Embiid, SGA , Hill Billy Kobe * troll* and even Vic could be the 2nd guy.

If we were picking today, I’d probably go Embiid, Joker and then Luka.

In a few years, who knows.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Another example of shifting rules though, right? When Jokic is missing his #2 and #3 for big chunks of the previous two years, you hold it against him when his team is a lower seed or doesn't get it done in the playoffs.

* ummmm, errrrrrr, various sounds of hesitation *

Yup….lol