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It's bad enough already that the Sears Cup lets a program like Oregon use the same athletes to compete in essentially the same sport with just a different twist in all 3 seasons, and then claim all the points from each of them as if they are similar in differences to how all the other sports are vastly different from each other. I mean, I've got no problem with colleges funding whatever sports they want, but scoring systems should not overly reward one school because it focuses on track/running sports or another because it focuses on a fan favorite. These are both forms of cheating basically. But from a fan of a school who has such a strong relationship with a disgusting company like Nike with values that would make H1tler proud, I guess it's no shocker he'd be so open to things all so close to cheating.
 

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And as a Coug, there is nothing to latch onto. ZERO Natl Titles in any of the sports that matter and/or you can get paid to compete in post college.

And only ONE in any sport at all, at least according to Wamu's standards, that is. Heck, according to Wamu, over 90% of all cfb titles were just intramural level and illegitimate since there was no NCAA sanctioned tourney, lol.
Literally makes no sense all of the nonsense you are spewing. The Cougs don’t have a great athletic history, but just because we don’t doesn’t mean we are going to suck the nuts of our rivals or take pride in our rivals accomplishments like SEC fans do. I don’t care if it comes to special olympics. If that person went to UW or Oregon or roots for them I want them to finish in last place or get busted with drugs or something for public embarrassment.
 

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It's bad enough already that the Sears Cup lets a program like Oregon use the same athletes to compete in essentially the same sport with just a different twist in all 3 seasons, and then claim all the points from each of them as if they are similar in differences to how all the other sports are vastly different from each other. I mean, I've got no problem with colleges funding whatever sports they want, but scoring systems should not overly reward one school because it focuses on track/running sports or another because it focuses on a fan favorite. These are both forms of cheating basically. But from a fan of a school who has such a strong relationship with a disgusting company like Nike with values that would make H1tler proud, I guess it's no shocker he'd be so open to things all so close to cheating.
There ya go - finally realizing Oregon has better athletes. Go pick a fight with a Bowling Green fan.
 

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Nobody outside this thread care about Minnesota's mickey mouse championships against the local YMCAs in 1904. Minnesota hasn't played in a meaningful football game in 50 years.

As for basketball, they had one run to the Final Four 24 years ago and had that accomplishment vacated for violating NCAA rules. Ironic since you accused Oregon of cheating for their accomplishments
 

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Nobody outside this thread care about Minnesota's mickey mouse championships against the local YMCAs in 1904. Minnesota hasn't played in a meaningful football game in 50 years.

As for basketball, they had one run to the Final Four 24 years ago and had that accomplishment vacated for violating NCAA rules. Ironic since you accused Oregon of cheating for their accomplishments

What's more impressive?

1.) Minnesota basketball going 15-0 in 1902
2.) Cy Young going 32-11 in 1902
3.) meeechegan football going 11-0 in 1902
 

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Literally makes no sense all of the nonsense you are spewing. The Cougs don’t have a great athletic history, but just because we don’t doesn’t mean we are going to suck the nuts of our rivals or take pride in our rivals accomplishments like SEC fans do. I don’t care if it comes to special olympics. If that person went to UW or Oregon or roots for them I want them to finish in last place or get busted with drugs or something for public embarrassment.
Why do you think SEC fans cheer for each other? It's like brothers, in the house, brothers fight. During conf play, SEC fans hate each other and cheer against each other, and only for their own teams. But once those brothers go out into the community, if someone picks a fight with little Johnnie, his brothers come to his defense. This extends outward, as when that community gathers together to play their rival town in whatever, we'll say basketball since this is a bb forum, then those brothers and the neighborhood kids who were fighting them earlier, gather together in unison to cheer against that rival town. And again, extending out, say here in Minnesota, when the Gophers go up against Wisconsin, all the Minnesota natives join together in unison to cheer against the filthy WisconSIN BADgers. And again, extending out again, when the B1G declares it's conference champ, and that team goes off to battle teams outside of the conference, then a lot of Badger and Gopher fans will cheer for say, Michigan in this years NCAA tourney, because that team, as much as we hate them, are a part of our extended family/community, at least more so than teams from other conferences. And the Gophers beat Michigan but did not play any PAC teams, so if Michigan wins, we can claim to have beaten the Natl Champs. Can't claim anything if a PAC team wins. AND AGAIN, extending outward one more time, when Gopher and Badger alums and even current players get together with PAC alums and players to compete together for the US Olympic team, we Americans can cheer for the US team in unison, as one big family, against other countries who are outside of our extended family/community. Now if you watch any Star Trek, this concept could and probably would extend outward again if earth was attacked by an alien race of whatevers.

So no one is telling you that you have to cheer for UW or Oregon EVER, but for you to make it out as if anyone who follows that above pattern, which is what the vast majority of the world does simply naturally, is wrong or dumb, well, it's silly and goes against the natural way of things.
 

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There ya go - finally realizing Oregon has better athletes. Go pick a fight with a Bowling Green fan.
Bullshit, they don't. UMn athletes have won more Gold Medals, won more Natl Titles, been awarded more Hall of Fame inductions, gotten to more Pro All-Star games, etc.. Minnesota athletes are simply superior to Oregon's. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 

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What's more impressive?

1.) Minnesota basketball going 15-0 in 1902
2.) Cy Young going 32-11 in 1902
3.) meeechegan football going 11-0 in 1902
Well, since cbb was still in it's beginning stages of growth in 1902, and Cy Young was playing in a professional sport, and cfb was several decades older than cbb, of course the Gophers going 15-0 in 1902 would be #3 on that list. And all the other cbb teams in the nation doing worse than UMn's 15-0 means they'd all rank much lower on that list and all of them would rank below Minnesota, no matter where on the overall list UMn's bb going 15-0 in 1902 landed. I'm sure Minnesota's football team going something like 10-1 in 1902 may have also ranked above the bb team's season. But that is not how sports work. Teams are judged against other teams playing the same sport at the same level, for the most part, cept when some of those levels combine to some degree.
 

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Nobody outside this thread care about Minnesota's mickey mouse championships against the local YMCAs in 1904. Minnesota hasn't played in a meaningful football game in 50 years.

As for basketball, they had one run to the Final Four 24 years ago and had that accomplishment vacated for violating NCAA rules. Ironic since you accused Oregon of cheating for their accomplishments
And Oregon has NEVER won a meaningful football game, EVER!!!!!!!!!
 

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Nobody outside this thread care about Minnesota's mickey mouse championships against the local YMCAs in 1904. Minnesota hasn't played in a meaningful football game in 50 years.

As for basketball, they had one run to the Final Four 24 years ago and had that accomplishment vacated for violating NCAA rules. Ironic since you accused Oregon of cheating for their accomplishments
And their only supposed Title in cbb wasn't even legitimate, it was akin to winning an NIT title say in the 60s or 70s before the NCAA tourney expanded to 64 teams. In 1939 the vast majority of the best teams all chose to play in the NIT, leaving lesser quality teams to play in the new upstart tourney, not yet established/accepted by the public, and only made "official" years later, after the NCAA beat out the NIT, so in reality, Oregon's 1939 title was just as much a retroactively given title as any before it, even more so as Oregon wasn't accepted as the real champ by anyone at the time but Webfoot fans and the NCAA people themselves, if even, as just getting paid by the NCAA in 1939 didn't mean all who worked for them were 100% sold on the organization.
 

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What's more impressive?

1.) Minnesota basketball going 15-0 in 1902
2.) Cy Young going 32-11 in 1902
3.) meeechegan football going 11-0 in 1902
There you go mentioning Michigan when your wack ass program lost embarrassingly to Oral Roberts. A true bitch. Go to a dispensary somewhere in your state and get some good weed, you are losing focus old man. I'm sure that 1902 Minnesota team would not have lost to fucking Oral Roberts in the first round. And now you don't even have UNC or UNLV to fall back on, what will you do? Suck on Gonzaga's dick?
 
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And their only supposed Title in cbb wasn't even legitimate, it was akin to winning an NIT title say in the 60s or 70s before the NCAA tourney expanded to 64 teams. In 1939 the vast majority of the best teams all chose to play in the NIT, leaving lesser quality teams to play in the new upstart tourney, not yet established/accepted by the public, and only made "official" years later, after the NCAA beat out the NIT, so in reality, Oregon's 1939 title was just as much a retroactively given title as any before it, even more so as Oregon wasn't accepted as the real champ by anyone at the time but Webfoot fans and the NCAA people themselves, if even, as just getting paid by the NCAA in 1939 didn't mean all who worked for them were 100% sold on the organization.

I really don't care about anything sports related that happened in 1939. But it's hilarious how Minnesota's retroactively claimed "championships" after beating some men's social clubs is legit but Oregon winning the first NCAA Tournament is not.
 

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If it’s Big Ten vs PAC in the Rose Bowl, it’s a big game. Period
If Michigan made it next year but didn't win the Big, I still think I'd have thoughts of wanting that fraud Harbaugh fired. It's pretty much the only sport Michigan isn't good at atm.
 

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I really don't care about anything sports related that happened in 1939. But it's hilarious how Minnesota's retroactively claimed "championships" after beating some men's social clubs is legit but Oregon winning the first NCAA Tournament is not.
It's simple, Minnesota beat the recognized best team in the country, the defending Natl Champions Yale, and it wasn't even close, and then pummeled Wisconsin, Iowa and Nebraska as well, and the whole of the cbb world recognized the undefeated 15-0 Minnesota Gophers as the clear and obvious BEST TEAM in the nation and the Helms AF and the Primo-Porretta Polls both agreed.

Oregon, on the other hand, lost to several teams during the season, including getting spanked by a Bradley team LIU beat, and they also got spanked by Oregon St by a 19 point margin which was HUGE at that time. Then, when most if not all of the best teams in the nation were invited to and went to go play in the NIT tourney, including undefeated LIU, who had beaten the Bradley team that trounced Oregon, Oregon chose instead to slink off and play in the lowly, brand new, not yet established or accepted by the general public, NCAA tourney. Not sure if Oregon simply did not get an invite to the NIT tourney, being deemed unworthy maybe? Or if they chose out of fear maybe, to accept an invitation? Either way doesn't matter, the end result was undefeated LIU going on to win the NIT tourney and was recognized by the masses as the REAL Champion and in retrospect both the Helms AF and the Primo-Porretta Polls declared undefeated LIU to be the Champions in 1939, NOT OREGON!!!!!! The team with 5 losses, including 2 really ugly ones, one to a team LIU seemed not to have a problem being able to beat.
 

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If it’s Big Ten vs PAC in the Rose Bowl, it’s a big game. Period
But Minnesota beating Auburn in the Outback Bowl can't be a big game? Regardless apparently to how the teams in the game were ranked going in? Some of the Rose Bowls of the past had some pretty lowly ranked teams playing in them.
 

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But Minnesota beating Auburn in the Outback Bowl can't be a big game? Regardless apparently to how the teams in the game were ranked going in? Some of the Rose Bowls of the past had some pretty lowly ranked teams playing in them.

The Outback bowl is fine but it’s where you go when you weren’t good enough to play in the Rose Bowl
 

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It's simple, Minnesota beat the recognized best team in the country, the defending Natl Champions Yale, and it wasn't even close, and then pummeled Wisconsin, Iowa and Nebraska as well, and the whole of the cbb world recognized the undefeated 15-0 Minnesota Gophers as the clear and obvious BEST TEAM in the nation and the Helms AF and the Primo-Porretta Polls both agreed.

Oregon, on the other hand, lost to several teams during the season, including getting spanked by a Bradley team LIU beat, and they also got spanked by Oregon St by a 19 point margin which was HUGE at that time. Then, when most if not all of the best teams in the nation were invited to and went to go play in the NIT tourney, including undefeated LIU, who had beaten the Bradley team that trounced Oregon, Oregon chose instead to slink off and play in the lowly, brand new, not yet established or accepted by the general public, NCAA tourney. Not sure if Oregon simply did not get an invite to the NIT tourney, being deemed unworthy maybe? Or if they chose out of fear maybe, to accept an invitation? Either way doesn't matter, the end result was undefeated LIU going on to win the NIT tourney and was recognized by the masses as the REAL Champion and in retrospect both the Helms AF and the Primo-Porretta Polls declared undefeated LIU to be the Champions in 1939, NOT OREGON!!!!!! The team with 5 losses, including 2 really ugly ones, one to a team LIU seemed not to have a problem being able to beat.

Are you still yelling about games that happened over 100 years ago? Nobody cares about 5 white guys throwing a basketball granny style at a basket and winning 29-22.
 
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