2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[NWinAZ]

ESPN's Jeff Passan reports that the Guardians and Jose Ramirez are in agreement on a five-year, $124 million contract extension.​

Rumors have swirled for years that the newly-named Guardians would eventually move Ramirez, and that chatter had picked up even more this spring, but this new deal comes with a full no-trade clause and will run all the way through 2028. It easily tops the richest contract Cleveland has ever handed out to a player, and it yet still could be viewed as rather team-friendly. Ramirez, 29, has registered a .912 OPS in 2,775 plate appearances since the beginning of the 2017 season while averaging 36 home runs, 105 RBI, 28 stolen bases, and 110 runs scored for every 162 games played during that span. He's the best third baseman in the sport.

 

[ulmax]

git ..it ..up now...

the path is right now.....out of sight now....

its in you.....its in you....now you know....what to do....yeah yeah yeah...yeah..

rev a ...bev....

 

[ulmax]

a....bit...yeah...the cat..yeah...a bit ..of nip...yeah..oooohhhh ..oooohhh

HEAT IT UP.NOW..and..THAT IS ENOUGH NOW..................................

 

[ulmax]

if...i call that one something...its otis knight heat it up...............lolololololool

 

[ulmax]

a companion like dartanion.............

hanging in his mansion...............

 

[Anointed One]

@ulmax ... I gotta admit, I have no idea what you're saying in your last 4 posts...

 

[ulmax]

getin it on..with the song.............in the zone..............

from/https://youtu.be/MG7KCOO76Wc

 

[ulmax]

mark of ...twain...some say ...insane......

lololol..

but lets explore....

the train...


shout it ////out.......

lolololololool

a bit of gospel....blues...in there..turned to rock....lololo

 

[ulmax]

an ...example of ....what inspired...ZZtop......



and.......elvis............but enough ..music..stuff for today.....gotta go ..draft a fantasy....baseball...

 

[Podunkparte]

@ulmax ... I gotta admit, I have no idea what you're saying in your last 4 posts...

Just the last 4, huh?

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[ulmax]

draft went good......we see some..mariners in here.........

Salvador Perez
C-KC
1B
Ty France
1B,2B-SEA
2B
Adam Frazier
2B-SEA
3B
Ryan McMahon
2B,3B-COL
SS
J.P. Crawford
SS-SEA
CI
Eugenio Suarez
3B,SS-SEA
MI
Brendan Rodgers
2B,SS-COL
OF
Chris Taylor
2B,SS,OF-LAD
OF
Dylan Carlson
OF-STL
OF
Mitch Haniger
OF-SEA
OF
Alex Kirilloff
1B,OF-MIN
OF
Tyler O'Neill
OF-STL
UT
Mike Zunino
C-TB
Res
Abraham Toro
2B,3B-SEA
Res
Michael Conforto
OF-(N/A)
ResReserve spot(s) availablegroupIRInj Res spot(s) available3Totals
31CLE
Thu 1:10PMperson1.941.943.811.060.390.560.151.150.011.981270030002700270030002500310023PIT
Thu 1:15PMperson2.962.964.041.220.710.590.461.110.062.2613100240026PIT
Thu 1:15PMperson3.243.243.931.240.760.80.361.380.112.5913100250

 

[ulmax]

and pitchers..
PitchingAgeOppFPtsFP/GGSWLIPHERBBKSVERAGPP
Kris Bubic
SP-KC
P
Corbin Burnes
SP-MIL
P
Logan Gilbert
SP-SEA
P
Marco Gonzales
SP-SEA
P
Joe Musgrove
SP-SD
P
Robbie Ray
SP-SEA
P
Alex Wood
SP-SF
P
Paul Sewald
RP-SEA
PRes




trying to get pat corbin...nester cortez...are available....lololo
slight injured
Lance McCullers Jr.
SP-HOU
Res
Taijuan Walker
SP-NYM
ResReserve spot(s) availablegroupIRInj Res spot(s) available3Totals
24CLE
Thu 1:10PMperson000000000000127@CHC
Thu 11:20AMperson16.2116.2100.40.185.54.191.691.147.3402.761240003000029@ARI
Thu 6:40PMperson000000000000130000310003

 

[ulmax]

all apolagies...for music appreciatetion

 

[ulmax]

a few..changes...
cant play conforto..if he is not signed..

Created on Apr 6 by ultimate marinersPending Processing
remove_circle_outline	Michael Conforto OF-(N/A)	from ultimate mariners
add_circle_outline	Andrew McCutchen OF-MIL	to ultimate mariners
Created on Apr 6 by ultimate marinersPending Processing
remove_circle_outline	Alex Kirilloff 1B,OF-MIN	from ultimate mariners
add_circle_outline	Lorenzo Cain OF-MIL	to ultimate mariners
Created on Apr 6 by ultimate marinersPending Processing
add_circle_outline	Patrick Corbin SP-WSH	to ultimate mariners
remove_circle_outline	Paul Sewald RP-SEA

seawald wont help me that much in fatasy...yet

 

[NWinAZ]

Something mariners might view for a couple of their youngsters.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I know people like it and I fully admit I never finished the book because it personally pissed me off. At my core I fully disagree with the philosophy of Moneyball so it read like a propaganda book to me. Runs scored is the most important offensive stat regardless of how it is generated. My simplest way of justifying my hardline stance on it is that my best childhood memory was the double and everything about that play would have Bill James crying. Cora wouldn’t have gotten on base, debatable if he could go 1st to 3rd on Juniors single and 100% would’ve been against Junior being waved home. IMO the biggest crime in that scenario is at Bill James core philosophy is it allows for a legitimate argument that Edgar should have been pinch hit for.

I don’t think you could use any football analogy. More like a NBA analogy of back when HS’ could go straight pro. They dominated at every level they played then struggled playing against other pros. I have no idea but his September showed hope. He has Ichiro as a tool to use but for sure he needs a vet that doesn’t have a problem getting in his face. It isn’t Servais’ responsibility but Jared needs a manager that can run out there when he gets a bad call or what he thinks is a bad call and can run interference with the umpire because a rookie barking at the ump was a red flag and a reputation he cannot get.

I’m not advocating for trading Marte just as a fan I don’t like that is seems Jerry has boxed himself in. He seems to have hitched his wagon to JP as his SS which means Marte is going to be playing 3B and as @NWinAZ always points out with not blocking a position, that is one hell of a gamble for a contending team to be banking on him living up to hype when has barely played professional ball.

Fair enough regarding the book. I was still pretty young when I read it, so I might have a different take on it today. I know I'm not going to change your mind on this, but the author - Michael Lewis - is an incredible writer and I don't think he was trying to push propaganda. I've read all of his books and the only one I'd say is propaganda is when he did a book on various federal governmental agencies being undermined by the Trump administration. I do believe that in the aggregate that statistical analysis applied to baseball works, but it isn't without flaws. I know we have our differences on this, so I'll leave it there.

Obviously the football analogy is flawed - and the NBA analogy is definitely better - but I think you get the point I was trying to drive home. As much as I believe Servais to be a mediocre manager, I actually disagree with you on this one. Whenever Kelenic gets a bad call, he just needs to realize that's part of the game and he can't throw a bitch fit about it. That's only going to get him more frustrated. I feel like if Servais were to run out there whenever Kelenic gets a bad call, that just validates his frustrations and he's only going to get more in his own head.

I agree that Dipoto did box himself in by not backing down on JP being the SS. Honestly I think this was mostly just trying to appease J.P. who has become a leader on this team. I think the Mariners would've had more flexibility in free agency if they were willing to move J.P. to second. This could go back to your argument that Dipoto can't attract hitters, but if you're saying to a star free agent who insists on playing SS that you're not willing play him there because you have an above average player already there who has just one good season at the plate, that's not a great pitch.

 

[seahawksfan234]

If you guys want to pity me a bit, I scheduled today off a while ago so I could watch the opening game.

Unless I record the games, the first game I might be able to watch in it's entirety is the home opener lol.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

Twins acquired RHP Chris Paddack, RHP Emilio Pagan, and a player to be named later from the Padres for LHP Taylor Rogers and OF Brent Rooker.​

Paddack showed immense promise as a rookie in 2019 before struggling to a 4.95 ERA and relatively underwhelming 8.4 K/9 in 167 1/3 innings between the 2020-2021 seasons. Maybe the Twins can help him tinker with his pitch mix to unlock more consistency. The 26-year-old right-hander is set to earn $2.25 million in 2022 and will be under Minnesota's control through 2024.