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2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

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Minimum Salary
  • A $700,000 minimum salary, escalating $10,000 in each year of the deal. That would represent a $129,500 increase from the 2021 minimum salary, the largest single-year increase in the sport’s history.
  • The $129,500 increase is nearly five times the $27,500 increase in the first year of the previous CBA, when the minimum salary went from $507,500 to $535,000.
  • The $129,500 increase would also be larger than the aggregate increase in the minimum salary over the last 10 years, when it increased from $480,000 in 2012 to $570,500 in 2021.
  • Minimum salary would not be fixed, so clubs and players would have the ability to agree to a higher amount, as they could in the previous CBA.
Pre-Arbitration Bonus Pool
  • MLB agreed to the union’s proposal to create a centrally funded pre-arbitration bonus pool to reward top-performing pre-arbitration players, and offered a pool of $30 million..
  • MLB agreed to expand the number of eligible players to 150 pre-arbitration players.
  • On average, the top 30 pre-arbitration players would increase their salaries by 79% under the pool, while 150 total players would receive bonuses for awards and performance.
  • MLB proposed forming a Joint Committee (three MLB representatives and three MLBPA representatives) to develop a mutually agreeable WAR statistic to allocate the funds.
Service Time Management
  • Players finishing first and second in Rookie of the Year voting would receive a full year of service time regardless of days spent in the Majors. Under this plan, Kris Bryant would have received a full year of service time in 2015.
i dont know....about all this stuff.....seems ok...
 

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i have a problem...with this....it is unfair............
  • Teams could receive selections after the first round of the Rule 4 and International Drafts for promoting top prospects to the Opening Day Rosters (Rule 4 selection for Rookie of the Year win and Top 3 in MVP and Cy Young; International selection for Rookie of the Year 2nd/3rd and Top 5 MVP / Cy Young).
 

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Competitive Balance Tax
  • Thresholds:
  • 2022-24: $220 million
  • 2025: $224 million
  • 2026: $230 million
  • No changes in tax rates or non-monetary penalties for exceeding thresholds.

  • seems ok went up to 220...so it seems...the yankees can escape.....getting ...nailed....
Draft Pick Compensation
  • MLB offered to eliminate direct Draft pick compensation (the qualifying offer system) for all free agents.
im ok with this.
 

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Draft Lottery
  • Top five selections chosen by NBA-style lottery (the NBA awards top four selections, the NHL awards top two selections via lottery)
  • Equal odds for bottom three record (16.5%). Revenue-sharing payees ineligible to be in lottery 3 straight years; non-payees ineligible in consecutive years. Ineligible teams can't pick higher than 8th overall
i dont want..lottery...at...all.....its bs....and wwwwaaaayyyyy...corruptable....i suppose they...going to do..it behind closed ...doors....FFFF

the nhl...and NBA...

first ythey go with...3 and 5...next the whole 1st round............NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO
 
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THE NHL>>>AND NBA>>>ARE NOT>>>>>>>IN THIS >>>>>>>>>>>BARGAIN>>>>>>>STAY>>>>>>OUT
 

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if..they say lottery..they will have to give assurance that they will...never....try...for any...and i mean any more.....lottery..spots..

EVER...................................

and must do it...in front of a crowd....like on tv..putting in..and out............
 

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  • Top five selections chosen by NBA-style lottery (the NBA awards top four selections, the NHL awards top two selections via lottery)
SAY...OUT...OF..MLB>>>>>>>>>>>GET LOST
 

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Equal odds for bottom three record (16.5%). Revenue-sharing payees ineligible to be in lottery 3 straight years; non-payees ineligible in consecutive years. Ineligible teams can't pick higher than 8th overal

this will not work..for oakland...or texas.....NOOOOO
 

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Amateur System
  • Proposed increases in the Rule 4 Signing Bonus Values and the International Draft Slots would result in more than $23 million in additional spending on amateur players each year compared to 2019.
  • The International Draft would increase spending on international amateur players and maintain the number of players signed, while addressing corruption in multiple ways (including eliminating early deals and introducing mandatory drug testing).
  • “Kumar Rocker Rule”: Top-300 players who submit to a pre-draft physical must be offered at least 75% of the Slot Value associated with that selection (currently clubs are not required to make an offer to a player post-Draft)
i dont know...about ..this...no opinion.........yet........
 

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  • Playing Rules: MLB proposed the formation of a joint Competition Committee comprised of active players, individuals selected by the Office of the Commissioner and an umpire, which would be responsible for recommending and adopting changes to playing and scoring rules (Pitch Timer, Automated Ball-Strike, shift restrictions, and bigger bases).
  • Universal Designated Hitter: Creation of 15 jobs that traditionally go to veteran players who are limited defensively. The average salary for a primary DH in the American League in 2021 was $9.2 million, suggesting the change could add $130 million in player salaries.
  • Option Limit: Limit of five times per season that a player can be optioned to the Minors.
this is good stuff...........
 

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  • Expanded Postseason: 12 teams in each league, with the top two Division winners in each league receiving a bye. Postseason Players Pool would be increased by approximately $15 million from additional games, while 50 additional players would receive Postseason shares each year.
soccer...mom...playoffs....NNNNOOOOOOOO..

there are only 15 teams in each league......eat ..gar----BAGE..


i WILL bOUCOTT>>>IT>>>JUST AS I HAVE>>>THE NBA>>>>>>
 

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DONT GET RIDE OF .>>>MLB..\>>>>>GET RIDE>>>OF THE NBA>>>AND NHL>>>>>>>>>>>>

THEY CAN>>>GO >>>JUMP>>>SOMEWHERE>>>>>>OR GO>>>>>>FLY>>I DONT CARE>>>>>>>>>

wait ...wait...ben...aaaahhh..yeah..i did not mean..you...lololol

ben franklin....famous ...flyer...........
 

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if they cant give asurances...i would not give them...anything...as far as rules..go...............play.....

stay OUT...of THE RULES
 

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mlb number of games..162..games..in a season...............mlb..6 teams..per franchise some have more......40 man roster..that covers about a team and 1/2...for themost part...no...other sport...is like MLB........no one else....should even...put there nose..into...it...


nfl..52 man roster..17 games.....the closest in ralivance....to baseball...only from the size of the team...nfl teams...onlyhave one team

nba...82..games in a season...12-15 guys....ONLY......only..1..team.....12-15 guys...no relivance...no standing....no understanding...OF..MLb

nhl.....whooo.....ohh yeah...those guys....82 games.........1 team.........................20-23 guys...no relivance....no standing....no understanding...of mlb
its true i did not now how maney...but still i will make my point.....

and google tryed to avoid the question

How many players are on an NHL team? For the majority of the regular season each NHL team must carry a minimum of 20 players and cannot exceed a maximum of 23 players. The number of roster spots expands after the NHL trade deadline and again in the playoffs, as well there are special emergency provisions for injuries.


THE BIGGEST>>AND best sport...is baseballl....dummies
 

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THE BIGGEST>>AND best sport...is baseballl....dummies.........and it ..not even...close.....

go home.....

soccor mom.............
 

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“We worked hard to avoid an outcome that is bad for our fans, bad for our players and bad for our clubs,” said Commissioner Rob Manfred while speaking to the assembled media in Jupiter, Fla., where the negotiations were taking place. “I want to assure our fans that our failure to reach an agreement was not due to a lack of effort on the part of either party.”
Mar 1, 2022

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  • nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooo...chaeting....because...of your...iiiilllll...polatics.....
  • Teams could receive selections after the first round of the Rule 4 and International Drafts for promoting top prospects to the Opening Day Rosters (Rule 4 selection for Rookie of the Year win and Top 3 in MVP and Cy Young; International selection for Rookie of the Year 2nd/3rd and Top 5 MVP / Cy Young).




Draft Lottery......nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  • Top five selections chosen by NBA-style lottery (the NBA awards top four selections, the NHL awards top two selections via lottery)
  • Equal odds for bottom three record (16.5%). Revenue-sharing payees ineligible to be in lottery 3 straight years; non-payees ineligible in consecutive years. Ineligible teams can't pick higher than 8th overall.
Amateur System
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ssssssssssooooooooooooccccccccccooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrr........mom.........playofffs
  • Expanded Postseason: 12 teams in each league, with the top two Division winners in each league receiving a bye. Postseason Players Pool would be increased by approximately $15 million from additional games, while 50 additional players would receive Postseason shares each year.
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Seems highly dumb that they haven’t made the club yet but are getting punished. 2020-half of 21 really screwed the Mariners and now this lockout. I swear they are the most unlucky franchise. Especially if the MLBPA gets what they want about service time 2024 is going to be hell as a fan here because they won’t be enough time to see if the players are worth as much money as they will getting. Some type of Larry Byrd rule or franchise tag rule needs to be put in place.

Obviously I’m not in the negations but from everything I’ve seen is a reasonable ask from the MLBPA and the owners are being dicks. First the owners hire non baseball guys to run the front office, young economic guys who watch Moneyball to become GM’s, then hire a commissioner who hates the game, and now have negotiators who don’t care about the sport.
 

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cuz...gaurdians...have this guy...he wil be rookie this ...year...​

Steven Kwan #79​

  • CF
  • B/T: L/L
  • 5' 9"/170
  • Age: 24
mariners could trade.........for this guy...he is ok...but yankees..may try as well....

Bradley Zimmer 4L/R6' 4"18511/27/1992

Career Stats​

SeasonTeamLGGABRHTB2B3BHRRBIBBIBBSOSBCSAVGOBPSLGOPSGO/AO
2017CLEAL101299417211515283926199181.241.307.385.6921.43
2018CLEAL341061424355029704441.226.281.330.6111.53
2019CLEAL913100000010700.000.071.000.0715.00
2020CLEAL20373690013701421.162.360.243.6030.80
2021CLEAL99299446810391835300122153.227.325.344.6691.13
MLB Career--2637541031702622931986711286396.225.310.347.6571.30
2017...and 2021...are his best years...thestats..are simular.....stolen bases..good...he had like 3 years..off...100 bats is nothing.....
he could..................... break out...and can cf...
he is realy..inexpencive...and his stats are ok....classic...CFer...stats...not many HRs...but he can hit...them..i see...something missing.....cuz he seemingly has it all.....or is it just cleveland....a switch hitter...

 
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