2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[ulmax]

So you just took what I said out of context. I said I don't think the Mariners had mismanaged Mitch Haniger over the years and they were the best thing to happen to him in HIS career. I really believe Mitch would just be a platoon player somewhere and not what he is today if not for the Mariners. Personally I think Jerry Dipoto has done a great job I'll argue that with anyone. When he took over in 2016 he has built one of the best farm systems in baseball including the #1 overall prospect in Julio Rodriguez, plenty of cap space, and was only 2 games away from making the playoffs with a mega young team. All of his moves weren't perfect but I think he has paved a bright future for the organization.

agreeeeeed.....

 

[ulmax]

I think Arod was on a mission to test free agency and get the biggest contract that would break records. If Mitch made it clear he wants to test free agency then I would say look into what we could get for him but I think we need to sign him to an extension. We need veteran leadership on the team and Seattle isn't exactly a destination free agents want to play for unless we over pay them.

.....agreed ill go with an extention.....but...market vallue...would be better...so extention...plus you mean....

but a qualifiing offer...plus signing bonus..
may be aceptable..


not extention...

even...if...you would take less....your agent will ..never let ..you.....take much....less...matbe a mater..of ...i want to play there...not there...is a diff story.

 

[ulmax]

spotrac....top...right field...money.....so if you say....24,500.mil...mitch ...if he wants..to play here...this is for one year...may say,...ok..
if the next..or next year..is a better free agent year............ya ...know...his agent...will...get on his/or her knees..and beg..if they have to...

the whole jerry Mcgire thing...

RANK	PLAYER	SIGNED AGE	YRS	VALUE	AAV	SIGNING BONUS
1	Mookie Betts Right Field | 2020-2032 (FA: 2033)	27	12	$365,000,000	$30,416,667	$65,000,000
2	Bryce Harper Right Field | 2019-2031 (FA: 2032)	26	13	$330,000,000	$25,384,615	$20,000,000
3	Jason Heyward Right Field | 2016-2023 (FA: 2024)	26	8	$184,000,000	$23,000,000	$20,000,000
4	Charlie Blackmon Right Field | 2018-2023 (FA: 2024)	31	6	$108,000,000	$18,000,000	$2,000,000
5	Wil Myers Right Field | 2017-2023 (FA: 2024)	26	6	$83,000,000	$13,833,333	$15,000,000

 

[ulmax]

now...mitch is making this ...per year..........would you...take an extention....no..no....and no....and your agent would not let you either..

ACTIVE PLAYERS (27)	AGE	POS.	STATUS	WAIVER OPTIONS	BASE SALARY	SIGNING BONUS	PAYROLL SALARY	ADJ. SALARY	PAYROLL %	LUX. TAX SALARY
Robbie Ray	30	SP	Vet		$21,000,000	-	$21,000,000	$21,000,000	29.43	23,000,000
Mitch Haniger	31	RF	Arb 3	3	$8,500,000	-	$8,500,000	$8,500,000	11.91	8,500,000

 

[ulmax]

extentions................. are for medeokre....players...who..would get payed about the same anyway.....but club..and player agree....on extention.

we may see...less of these...in the future............depends on how it goes...

 

[ulmax]

if an agent..gets 10pct.of...25mil...is 2.5..mil...that is why...they would jerry mc guire...the whole thing.....

even if it is.........jerry Mc giver.......

 

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[wazzu31]

Disagree.

On which part? You think Haniger can net a legit prospect?

 

[wazzu31]

I think that's partially true but I also think the Mariners didnt make a serious effort. Their offer was I think 5 years or less, cant remember.

It was three years at $18 million a year. Griffey’s was 4 at $16 million which caused the rift no matter how many times Junior says it was being close to his family.

 

[ulmax]

On Friday, the two sides made progress on Draft lottery discussions, which could be settled Saturday. But the sides must bridge the gap on key issues including the competitive balance tax, Super Two eligibility, minimum salaries and a dollar figure for a pre-arbitration bonus pool.
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draft lottery......MLB...IS,...NOT...THE....NBA...BS...on lottery..

just a way to work..the....market...or lose fans...lottery...never was....FAIR.....in the NBA..and it will not be in MLB....eother..

go...ahead....ruin your own sport....FAT....D...A...sses..

yeah...i get ...the lux....tax...no one wants it....flying ...D...As...

like...prohibition....no one ...wants it..............

 

[ulmax]

reality...is....MLB...has..6.... teams per franchise..Nba only has 1.........GARbAGe...NBA.....idiot...media..NBA..people

 

[NWinAZ]

It was three years at $18 million a year. Griffey’s was 4 at $16 million which caused the rift no matter how many times Junior says it was being close to his family.

The Mariners made their best offer on a Sunday before learning on Monday morning that it wasn’t enough. 5 years and $19 million a year. The contract only guaranteed $60 million over 3 years; the rest was a 2-year option. Pat Gillick admitted later, “I don’t believe they were particularly happy with our proposal. We had some inclination it wasn’t too well-received.” Gillick also confirmed the Mariners weren’t going anywhere near 10 years.

At the press conference announcing his signing, A-Rod took some shots at the Mariners’ offer. “They were never an option... I’m glad they didn’t make it a close call.”

“Strategically, I wanted to give Seattle the last chance, to give them the opportunity to bring me back because I felt I owed it to them,” Rodriguez said. But he concluded, “Texas really made it easy for me.”

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[NWinAZ]

On which part? You think Haniger can net a legit prospect?

I forgot the original question...lol.

The question about if he can net a legit prospect; I think he could get a teams #5-10 prospect and a 20's prospect. Not a Top 10 MLB prospect. Plus we have a lot of extra fridge MLB players to add to a deal to get a top end prospect. He is a cheap bat with power numbers on a 1 year deal. I think the trade deadline last season would have proved more valuable of a time to trade him, but the season prevented that. I think they get rid of the competitive balance pick on free agent signings. Players hate it and for good reason and GM's try to avoid it in most cases.

 

[ulmax]

I forgot the original question...lol.

The question about if he can net a legit prospect; I think he could get a teams #5-10 prospect and a 20's prospect. Not a Top 10 MLB prospect. Plus we have a lot of extra fridge MLB players to add to a deal to get a top end prospect. He is a cheap bat with power numbers on a 1 year deal. I think the trade deadline last season would have proved more valuable of a time to trade him, but the season prevented that. I think they get rid of the competitive balance pick on free agent signings. Players hate it and for good reason and GM's try to avoid it in most cases.

its for sure....haniger could net a good....prospect...if you are ..talking top....100...not top ...50....for one year....or for the payoffs...teams sell high at
...trade time...........anyway...it would be about...the same...ateam..like san fran.....might....san diego...no...they have..hassel..

but...a team like san fran....would think ...they...have a shot..to re-sign him...who....

tampa prob would in this case...but..you prob would not get..this guy..​

Xavier Edwards

2B

Tampa Bay Rays

AA

2022

22

5' 10" / 175 lbs

S

R

prob this one.... Vidal Bruján 7

S/R

5' 10"

180

02/09/1998

and he is likely at AAA most of the year...

 

[ulmax]

its for sure....haniger could net a good....prospect...if you are ..talking top....100...not top ...50....for one year....or for the payoffs...teams sell high at
...trade time...........anyway...it would be about...the same...ateam..like san fran.....might....san diego...no...they have..hassel..

but...a team like san fran....would think ...they...have a shot..to re-sign him...who....

tampa prob would in this case...but..you prob would not get..this guy..​

Xavier Edwards

2B

Tampa Bay Rays

AA

2022

22

5' 10" / 175 lbs

S

R

prob this one.... Vidal Bruján 7

S/R

5' 10"

180

02/09/1998

and he is likely at AAA most of the year...

but the mariners are looking to go to the playoffs...they wont trade him....unless..they have no shot.....

i dont think that will...be the case.....
and he will just bea...free agent is the most likly....


if it does not make sense...it prob will not....happen...for the mariners...

mlb....is stinking...the place up.....with lottery....talks...........lottery...is coruption........and trying to play the markets...
which is re-dickless...
at the lvl...of...low a..baseball.......or do you not remember....

Dustin Ackley #1...who.together..with saunders...made the worst...outfield ever...​

yeah...#1 pick.....never made it in the magors....

so much for ...media ..perseption....of...BS>>

 

[ulmax]

now ...the media...wants ..to hand...the fans....dustin ackley.........

we do not want....it.....................flying garbage ...media...

double...d. a....and disrespect...in there direction....

 

[ulmax]

anyway.....

Glasnow

27

Majors

SP

Low

2.0

39.4

11.6

27.8

22.2

27.8

33.4

Kiermaier

31

Majors

OF

Medium

2.0

11.5

14.7

-3.2

-3.4

-2.8

-2.2

Brujan

Minors

2B

20.7

16.6

20.7

24.8

maybe of interest....

im thinking glasnow..san diego..limett...maybe tampas style...
but..they dont really ...need...him..unless they loose...darvish..
and there
LEFTY...they need is..

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[wazzu31]

The Mariners made their best offer on a Sunday before learning on Monday morning that it wasn’t enough. 5 years and $19 million a year. The contract only guaranteed $60 million over 3 years; the rest was a 2-year option. Pat Gillick admitted later, “I don’t believe they were particularly happy with our proposal. We had some inclination it wasn’t too well-received.” Gillick also confirmed the Mariners weren’t going anywhere near 10 years.

At the press conference announcing his signing, A-Rod took some shots at the Mariners’ offer. “They were never an option... I’m glad they didn’t make it a close call.”

“Strategically, I wanted to give Seattle the last chance, to give them the opportunity to bring me back because I felt I owed it to them,” Rodriguez said. But he concluded, “Texas really made it easy for me.”

The Hero Becomes the Villain: Alex Rodriguez Returns to Seattle

20 years ago today A-Rod made his return to Seattle after signing a record-breaking contract with the Texas Rangers. There used to be mad love between the player and the fans. Now, there was bad blood...and a lot of fake money.

www.lookoutlanding.com

Hmm, I didn’t know they made another offer to him outside the one that made him the highest paid player. I can’t blame him for taking the money I just hated how he kept saying it wasn’t about the money every time it was mentioned in 2000. You can tell fans still have hurt feelings over that by what is going on with Russell Wilson.