2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

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any one know why..they got frazier now...

tampa and mariners have history....they prob could ...but at what price...a comp bal...lol
7. Kevin Kiermaier / CF / Rays..would be nice...to go with...lewis..if frazier is 2B...then lewis is DH...maybe

11. Willson Contreras / C / Cubs

mariners dont have much to trade...except maybe..in the lower lvls.......

and that is deadline...stuff to me....
would be nice to get these guys though

contreras..would..give raliegh some more time at tacoma..that would be ok..

 

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my future catching team....is raliegh and thomas.....its still a bit away.....catchers can..take some time...they have a lot to do..

and the mariners have other guts that may work as well...so dont count them out..

who is at tacoma matters.....and for catchers...as well

 

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Name	Position	MTV ($Ms)
Contreras	C	14
Steele	LHRP	4.7
Verdugo	SS	1.6

Total Value: 20.30​

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Name	Position	MTV ($Ms)
Keenan	1B	0.5
Margevicius	SP	0.1
McCaughan	RHRP	0.8
Raleigh	C	18.8

Total Value: 20.20​

this may work...but mariners dont want to trade there prospects..so..it a prob not...

 

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maybe a trade...for torrens

• Luis Alfonso Torrens
• Nickname: Churro
• Born: 5/02/1996 in Valencia, Venezuela
• Draft: , Cincinnati Reds, Round: 1, Overall Pick: 2
• Debut: 4/03/2017

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Year	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	OBP	OPS
2021 Stats	346	39	84	15	47	0	.243	.299	.730
MLB Career Stats	553	53	125	16	60	0	.226	.290	.659

Year
2021 Stats
MLB Career Stats looks even..and...tampa always needs catchers and DH

Kevin Kiermaier​

Position: Centerfielder
Bats: Left • Throws: Right
6-1, 210lb (185cm, 95kg)
Team: Tampa Bay Rays (majors)
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Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
2013	23	TBR	AL	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0						0	0	0	0	0	0	/8
2014	24	TBR	AL	108	364	331	35	87	16	8	10	35	5	4	23	71	.263	.315	.450	.765	117	149	3	3	5	2	2	98H/D7
2015	25	TBR	AL	151	535	505	62	133	25	12	10	40	18	5	24	95	.263	.298	.420	.718	99	212	7	2	2	2	0	*8H/9	MVP-17,GG
2016	26	TBR	AL	105	414	366	55	90	20	2	12	37	21	3	40	74	.246	.331	.410	.741	104	150	5	7	0	1	1	8/H	GG
2017	27	TBR	AL	98	421	380	56	105	15	3	15	39	16	7	31	99	.276	.338	.450	.788	113	171	3	5	4	1	2	8/H
2018	28	TBR	AL	88	367	332	44	72	12	9	7	29	10	5	25	91	.217	.282	.370	.653	80	123	4	6	2	2	2	8/H
2019	29	TBR	AL	129	480	447	60	102	20	7	14	55	19	5	26	104	.228	.278	.398	.676	79	178	8	5	1	1	2	*8/HD	GG
2020	30	TBR	AL	49	159	138	16	30	5	3	3	22	8	1	20	42	.217	.321	.362	.683	93	50	2	1	0	0	1	*8/H
2021	31	TBR	AL	122	390	348	54	90	19	7	4	37	9	5	33	99	.259	.328	.388	.716	104	135	4	5	0	4	2	*8/HD
9 Yrs	851	3130	2847	382	709	132	51	75	294	106	35	222	675	.249	.310	.410	.720	98	1168	36	34	14	13	12
162 Game Avg.	162	596	542	73	135	25	10	14	56	20	7	42	128	.249	.310	.4

an other LH bat is desireable....and in CF...as well

 

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.P. Crawford 3...L/L...ss
#2 open
Adam Frazier 26..L/L...2B
Ty France 23.................!B
Mitch Haniger 17..............RF
Jarred Kelenic 10...L/L.........LF
Kyle Lewis 1............................CF/DH
Kevin Kiermaier 39.......L/l..CF
Tom Murphy 2...catch....inWillson Contreras 40...case...murphy would be the back up..

theis looksgood...except...3b..

hello...hello...tampa...how can i do for you.......lololo

 

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Kiermaier

31

Majors

OF

Medium

2.0

11.5

14.7

-3.2

-3.4

-2.8

-2.2

considerd a negative...not for seattle....they should be able to make a deal...and it does not change the bench

still raliegh
moore
fraley..
toro..

they could..want torrens...but i just want to say..he would be next up..for seattle..at catcher and DH..so..however...seattle and tampa have history so they should be able to make a deal...

 

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Kiermaier, 32 in April, has been the Rays’ primary center fielder for the past seven seasons. He’s picked up three Gold Gloves in that time, and ranked third in the game in the ’21 Fielding Bible Awards. With the bat, a league-average season is generally the best case scenario. Kiermaier signed a six-year deal with the Rays back in 2017. He’s owed $12 million this year plus a $2.5 million buyout on a $13 million club option for ’23.

Kiermaier has been involved in trade rumors for years, but this may be the point where the Rays finally pull the trigger. Baseball America ranks Rays prospect Josh Lowe 44th overall in the game, noting that he plays a plus center field. Lowe also posted a 142 wRC+ at Triple-A, so he appears ready to take over. Tampa Bay can also give center field innings to Manuel Margot, Brett Phillips, and Vidal Brujan.

works for me

 

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add bryant...to this...and it is good.....cant think of any other...3 b...soo..if ya have to switch the line up a bit..no prob.

.P. Crawford 3...L/L...ss
#2 open
Adam Frazier 26..L/L...2B
Ty France 23.................!B
Mitch Haniger 17..............RF
Jarred Kelenic 10...L/L.........LF
Kyle Lewis 1............................CF/DH
Kevin Kiermaier 39.......L/l..CF
Tom Murphy 2...catch....inWillson Contreras 40...case...murphy would be the back up..

theis looksgood...except...3b..

 

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ya want frazier and france hitting guys in...so...maybe bryant in #2 is ok...his numbers are close to storys..maybe better..
yeah.he will work............

..pitch to a tall..guy then to a lot shorter guy will mess pitchers up...maybe..

 

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I agree with most of that. The only exception was the part that said "And to me lack of range in CF is ok when you have athletic COFers". I don't know of any corner OF's that make up for bad CF's on a playoff caliber team. Plus, that to me leads to guys running into each other. A CF should be in charge, but if CO'ers are being aggressive to make of for lacking CF'ers collisions are in your future.

Just go get Reynolds from Pitt or Kiermaier from Tampa. I think a stud defensive CF for a team that pitches to contact is essential.

Well yeah but teams haven’t put together an 80’s Cardinals OF because people have type cast. Not saying it is ideal but you can over compensate in that area if you get COF which I don’t think Mitch has the ability to be one. Half of Griffey’s highlights were because Buhner and whichever scrub in LF had zero range. So not ideal and getting a CF would be best but can’t see them signing two FA’s and trading for a CF.

 

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No more pitchers on the bases wearing jackets. No more surprise dingers. No more epic bunts. No more awkward batting stances and related injury scares.
It’s the end of an era, but at least we’ll always have Bartolo Colon’s legendary home run.

Major League Baseball has agreed to the universal designated hitter, commissioner Rob Manfred announced on Thursday. The move ends the National League’s 48-year run that forced pitchers to take at-bats. In addition, Manfred said MLB has agreed to eliminate draft-pick compensation for signing free agents.

 

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Kevin Kiermaier Stats | Baseball-Reference.com..​

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i did not mentionkiermier...​

but he maybe the best trrade...cuz..the mariners can afford..10 mil...around 3.0 0trade value...for a vet..till lewis fully re-covers is good
and
lewis is dh works....3.0...is not a lot..15-20..is a lot for trade value
regaurdless who they sign they say..no more pick comp on free agents soo that means the mariners will have all of theres.....if true

aftervthat sign bryant..andit is all good..

one free agent...one trade...or another LHP..but it may not be a must...until the deadline anyway.....and they have brash ,dunn williamson..

 

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No more pitchers on the bases wearing jackets. No more surprise dingers. No more epic bunts. No more awkward batting stances and related injury scares.
It’s the end of an era, but at least we’ll always have Bartolo Colon’s legendary home run.

Major League Baseball has agreed to the universal designated hitter, commissioner Rob Manfred announced on Thursday. The move ends the National League’s 48-year run that forced pitchers to take at-bats. In addition, Manfred said MLB has agreed to eliminate draft-pick compensation for signing free agents.

well sems they can agree..to something anyway...,just not to work........they be like crabers...arguing over ...price mate.....

 

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but yeah just cuz we figuerdout some posables...free agents and trades....reality...is different...so when..they get the agreement...
we will see....what jedi...has ...cooked up...might be good...lolo

 

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the whole.....200 hits down...bottom of the league.....i think has been addressed...and must continue..to be addressed.

frazier...top ten...175...hits

loss...seager..128 hits...so..we only ganed 50 hits

150 to go plus..i think the plus can be made up from...kelenic...fraley......moore..improvment...all theguys...who...did not hit well last year..
toro should have a few more hits...being at mlb all year. his mlb hits.....from last year......80....he should 100 at least..20 more

2 teams

AL

95

335

45

80

125

12

0

11

46

31

0

54

6

3

.239

.315

.373

.688

0.77

prospects...for 3b..

bryant....136 hits
chapmon.....111..hits

CF so far...

Kyle Lewis 1....if they can get...400...at bat from lewis...it would be 100 hits..

if they got kiermier..++ 90 hits

jjaun thens...value seems to be going down......and progress does not ...seem much last year...maybe a new...team...may help..the up side..
is certaily there....tampa signed..26..internatinal...guys...good job on that to them.

all in all.....that would....cut it....if those guys where guys that they get.....

one more.....LHP...is desireable....but not a must....they could go...with what...they have...tell the deadline...or anytime..they need one..