2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[NWinAZ]

 

[ulmax]

MLB Baseball Player Stats - Ground Ball Out​

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MLB Baseball Player Stats - Ground Ball Outs...flexen..at.#20​

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Split: All Games Home Games Away/Neu Games Div Games League Games Last 2 Weeks Last 4 Weeks Vs. Top 10
Rate: Season Totals Per IP Per Game
Season: 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011

Rank	Player	Team	Pos	Value
1	Adam Wainwright	St. Louis Cardinals	SP	247
1	Sandy Alcantara	Miami Marlins	SP	247
3	Dallas Keuchel	Chicago White Sox	SP	237
4	Luis Castillo	Cincinnati Reds	SP	226
5	Max Fried	Atlanta Braves	SP	224
6	Walker Buehler	Los Angeles Dodgers	SP	222
7	German Marquez	Colorado Rockies	SP	221
8	Kyle Gibson	Philadelphia Phillies	SP	217
9	Zack Wheeler	Philadelphia Phillies	SP	212
10	Marcus Stroman	New York Mets	SP	211
11	Logan Webb	San Francisco Giants	SP	210
12	Zack Greinke	Houston Astros	SP	208
12	Kyle Hendricks	Chicago Cubs	SP	208
14	Wade Miley	Cincinnati Reds	SP	205
15	Patrick Corbin	Washington Nationals	SP	204
16	Charlie Morton	Atlanta Braves	SP	202
17	Lance McCullers Jr.	Houston Astros	SP	193
18	Hyun Jin Ryu	Toronto Blue Jays	SP	192
19	Chris Flexen	Seattle Mariners	SP	186
19	Jose Berrios	Toronto Blue Jays	SP	186
21	Nathan Eovaldi	Boston Red Sox	SP	179
22	Anthony DeSclafani	San Francisco Giants	SP	175
23	Frankie Montas	Oakland Athletics	SP	173
23	Brandon Woodruff	Milwaukee Brewers	SP	173
25	Joe Musgrove	San Diego Padres	SP	171
26	Kevin Gausman	San Francisco Giants	SP	169
26	Cole Irvin	Oakland Athletics	SP	169
28	Tyler Mahle	Cincinnati Reds	SP	164
29	Julio Urias	Los Angeles Dodgers	SP	163
30	Jordan Lyles	Texas Rangers	SP	162
31	Sean Manaea	Oakland Athletics	SP	15

anderson...was at 32.......just saying

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[ulmax]

32	Tyler Anderson	Seattle Mariners	SP	154
33	Aaron Nola	Philadelphia Phillies	SP	146
34	Corbin Burnes	Milwaukee Brewers	SP	145
34	Eduardo Rodriguez	Boston Red Sox	SP	145
36	Gerrit Cole	New York Yankees	SP	138
37	Robbie Ray	Toronto Blue Jays	SP	133
38	Luis Garcia	Houston Astros	SP	131
39	Lucas Giolito	Chicago White Sox	SP	129
40	Nick Pivetta	Boston Red Sox	SP	127
41	Yu Darvish	San Diego Padres	SP	126
42	Max Scherzer	Los Angeles Dodgers	SP	120
43	Dylan Cease	Chicago White Sox	SP	105

* All Games qualifier is on pace for at least 486 outs pitched
* Home Games qualifier is on pace for at least 194 outs pitched
* Away/Neutral Games qualifier is on pace for at least 194 outs pitched
* Division Games qualifier is on pace for at least 97 outs pitched
* League Games qualifier is on pace for at least 194 outs pitched
* Last 2 Weeks qualifier is on pace for at least 34 outs pitched
* Last 4 Weeks qualifier is on pace for at least 58 outs pitched
* Vs. TR Top 10 qualifier is on pace for at least 48 outs pitched

 

[ulmax]

Ground-ball Rate (GB%)​

Definition​

Ground-ball rate represents the percentage of balls hit into the field of play that are characterized as ground balls. Each ball that is hit into the field of play is characterized as a line drive, a fly ball, a ground ball or a pop-up. Ground-ball rate can be used as a metric to evaluate both hitters and pitchers.

Pitchers with high ground-ball rates have a tendency to allow fewer home runs (which result from fly balls and line drives). Likewise, hitters with higher ground-ball rates tend to hit fewer home runs.

In A Call​

"ground-ball percentage"

 

[ulmax]

best ground ball pitchers all-time

• Aaron Cook[18]
• Roy Halladay[18]
• Félix Hernández[18]
• Tim Hudson[10]
• Greg Maddux[17]
• Derek Lowe[5]
• Chien-Ming Wang[5]
• Brandon Webb[5]
• Jake Westbrook[18]
• Jamey Wright[18]
• Orel Hershiser[18]

 

[NWinAZ]

MLB argues for minor league players to remain unpaid for spring training

Big league players aren't the only ones who currently have beef with MLB.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[ulmax]

if they ever want to trade him........send him with

Willson Contreras 40

R/R

6' 1"

225

05/13/1992

Justin Steele #35....any one...born on ...7/11.....that is what you call them....loloo​

• P
• B/T: L/L
• 6' 2"/205
• Age: 26

• ustin Carl Steele
• Born: 7/11/1995 in Lucedale, MS
• Draft: 2014, Chicago Cubs, Round: 5, Overall Pick: 139
• High School: George County, Lucedale, MS
• Debut: 4/12/2021

View More Bio Info +
Batting
Pitching

Year	W	L	ERA	G	GS	SV	IP	SO	WHIP
2021 Stats	4	4	4.26	20	9	0	57.0	59	1.35
MLB Career Stats	4	4	4.26	20	9	0	57.0	59	1.35

Year
2021 Stats
MLB Career Stats

• Status: Active
• Next CHC Game: 02-26 vs LAD

 

[ulmax]

ok...if they...go unpaid....so do owners......now..do they think itis fair....................

The players’ side, of course, disagrees. “All of a sudden they aren’t employees during the time periods where we call it ‘training,’ even though they’re operating under the same employment contract that requires them to perform services, quote, ‘throughout the calendar year,’” said Garrett Broshuis, an attorney and former MiLB player himself.

on going....training....is paid..by most company....stop the bs....as arecompanymeetings......for the reason....of..BSbSSbs

if ya dont want to pay them...good luck with getting them to show...up....i would not....unless i could write it off...as charity...
but that would open...a whole diffcan of worms...stop it...


you go work...for free..................................

 

[ulmax]

anytime...people are paying to get in......sping training games.....u better belive...the owners are getting paid..

they should be ashamed........no one owes....them nothing......

 

[ulmax]

every time..you think it is good....its not....it"s chef on.....

never say ..never.....
or ever be clever......
your dreams come true.....
even if.....you never knew.............

 

[ulmax]

opps sorry about that i had to bust out a song......................
heading to

chess

they where all maried ....
but qiut contrary....

 

[ulmax]

there names where gary.......
and..
larry...........................


woooooow...........

 

[ulmax]

ya make up a thing....
ya call it a dream......

but it smell....ya ale ya................

...oooooohhhhh aint no holy grail yahhhh

goodness never fail ya......................

creativity...........banish..the livity...
oooooohhh ale ya smell ya................

 

[ulmax]

oohh rockin gail ya (hope she dont read this...lol)ya....has mick...in her cupboard.....shell ya....
and it does not ale ya....
hopin rockin gail ya

aint nothing wrong...when ya make up a song......aoooooohhh ale ya smell ya...

 

[seahawksfan234]

kelenic......minors..9 Hrs

Season	Team	LG	Level	G	AB	R	H	TB	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	GO/AO
2018	2 teams	-	Minors	56	220	42	63	103	10	6	6	43	26	0	50	15	1	.286	.371	.468	.839	1.35
2019	3 teams	-	Minors	117	443	80	129	239	31	5	23	68	50	0	111	20	7	.291	.364	.540	.904	0.37
2021	TAC	PCL	AAA	30	125	29	40	78	9	1	9	28	15	1	22	6	1	.320	.392	.624	1.016	0.97

majors 14...so thatis 23 overall.....

SEA	AL	93	337	41	61	118	13	1	14	43	36	0	106	6	4	.181	.265	.350	.615	1.06
MLB Career	-	-	93	337	41	61	118	13	1	14	43	36	0	106	6	4	.181	.265	.350	.615	1.06

@seahawksfan234....so yeah you are prob right.....he could hit 30...this year..or more..bt if he does not...its ok...no soccor mom trophies though..
20 25 is ok...30 and more is good...
and we wont be saying anything about a trade,.....lolokk

Kelenic's power isn't what concerns me as much as his ability to control the zone. After being called back up to the majors, Kelenic struck out 80 times in 70 games and only hit .209/.291/402.

When he makes contact, he's definitely able to hit the ball hard. He just has to work on settling down and swinging at pitches he can hit.

I'm getting a bit selective here, but Kelenic did hit .248/.331/.524/.854 in the last month of the season with 6 doubles, 1 triple, 7 HRs and 20 RBI. That's 34 doubles, 6 triples, 39 HRs and 112 RBIs over a 162 game season. If he even comes close to those numbers over a full season in 2022, I'm sure we'll all be very, very happy.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I think this is pretty common for a lot of guys that play in Colorado. But I dont think he profiles as a guy that would only succeed at Coors. Last year he was bad all around including Coors. If you take away his 2021, the last 3 years he has had road OPS' of .780, .767 and .792. Those should play just fine.
With Marte, I think just his size alone profiles him more as ultimately a 3rd baseman.

Fair enough.

A better way of expressing my thoughts on Story is that I would prefer giving him a contract that matches his performance away from Coors without taking into consideration how well he hit there.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Jim Bowden via The Athletic posted "The first move each AL team should make when the lockout ends," and this is what he had to say about the Mariners:

Seattle Mariners​

Offseason needs: middle-of-the-order bat, SP, lineup depth

Biggest moves pre-lockout: Signed LHP Robbie Ray; traded for 2B Adam Frazier

First move they should make post-lockout: Sign DH Nelson Cruz to one-year, $12 million deal

The Mariners could use a veteran middle-of-the-order impact bat, so how about a reunion with Nelson Cruz in what could be his final season? Cruz, 41, hit 32 homers, drove in 86 runs and posted a 130 OPS+ and was worth 2.5 WAR last year. His leadership and mentorship would help expedite the development of the Mariners’ good young hitters at the major-league level and in their system.

I know we've discussed this before, the Mariners haven't been connected to Cruz, and he would clog up the DH position but the fan in me would love this move.

The logical part of me could rip the idea of signing Cruz to pieces, but I would really love to see it.

 

[NWinAZ]

Jim Bowden via The Athletic posted "The first move each AL team should make when the lockout ends," and this is what he had to say about the Mariners:

Seattle Mariners​

Offseason needs: middle-of-the-order bat, SP, lineup depth

Biggest moves pre-lockout: Signed LHP Robbie Ray; traded for 2B Adam Frazier

First move they should make post-lockout: Sign DH Nelson Cruz to one-year, $12 million deal

The Mariners could use a veteran middle-of-the-order impact bat, so how about a reunion with Nelson Cruz in what could be his final season? Cruz, 41, hit 32 homers, drove in 86 runs and posted a 130 OPS+ and was worth 2.5 WAR last year. His leadership and mentorship would help expedite the development of the Mariners’ good young hitters at the major-league level and in their system.

I know we've discussed this before, the Mariners haven't been connected to Cruz, and he would clog up the DH position but the fan in me would love this move.

The logical part of me could rip the idea of signing Cruz to pieces, but I would really love to see it.

I agree as long as that isn't the only move. Add two hitting fielders and Cruz and one more solid plus SP and I am fine with all of that.

 

[wazzu31]

I agree as long as that isn't the only move. Add two hitting fielders and Cruz and one more solid plus SP and I am fine with all of that.

Sign Cruz, Bryant and Story, then they can deal Kyle Lewis and Evan White plus a prospect for another pitcher and hopefully can trade for a catcher.

 

[wazzu31]

MLB argues for minor league players to remain unpaid for spring training

Big league players aren't the only ones who currently have beef with MLB.

www.yardbarker.com

Well I guess that seems fair to the owners? Not exactly smart considering there is going to be a huge chunk of these minor leaguers who will be very vocal at the next CBA negotiations.