2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[ulmax]

yeah nevada winter and summer...olimpics....what could be better......and tons of fans...and people spending money..

yeah...nevada is kind of...........californias back yard

 

[ulmax]

my point...in portland pirates...is this...they are a national..league team...and the mariners are a ..american..league team..

one would not..market the other....team....just as...cubs and white sox....yankees and..mets..dodgers and..angels..

same...
giants and As...

now san diego..and arizona...are..national league....
and texas...rangers and astros are...american...but thoughs are...exceptions...not the rule

from my...point of view...rangers would be better off...national league...and i do not know...between..arizona and san diego...but i think...maybe arizona..american

 

[ulmax]

both teams at the bottom right now a switch...would not matter..

k.c...st louis
wash ..balt..
cinnci clevland

miami...tampa..

loners

atlanta....detroit

 

[NWinAZ]

Yea I would have to look at the data but I am too lazy to do the work. I just think of guys like Machado but then I think the data might be skewed by guys like Ripken or A-rod who did the move later in their careers when they had lost a step.

I did read years back that some former SS said it is not as easy as most think. They say that ball gets on you so much faster at 3B. I would still have no problem with them trying it. I still like Chapman though for his defense.

 

[NWinAZ]

Yea I would have to look at the data but I am too lazy to do the work. I just think of guys like Machado but then I think the data might be skewed by guys like Ripken or A-rod who did the move later in their careers when they had lost a step.

As soon as I replied I read this:

Report: Trevor Story not interested in changing positions

Story would reportedly prefer to remain at shortstop.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[seahawksfan234]

I just mean Frazier has one year left and resigning I guess depends on the rest of you INF mainly. If you think Marte isnt far away and you are still happy with Crawford and have added Story/Bryant then I dont see where giving Frazier a big multi year deal would make sense.

But yeah I dont see Story signing a 1 year deal but I also think the whole he only hits at Coors thing is a little over blown

I think best case scenario for Marte is that he's ready by late next year, so I wouldn't count on that. Marte is an incredible prospect but he still has some issues to iron out as evidenced by the 61 errors he has committed in the 166 games he has played so far. I don't think that'll be a lingering concern, but something to consider.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but Story's home/away splits are pretty substantial, here they are for his career:

Home: 375 games, .303/.369/.603/.972, 95 HRs, 279 RBI, 100 doubles, 21 triples
Away: 370 games, .241/.310/.442/.752, 63 HRs, 171 RBI, 80 doubles, 6 triples

Not like he's a bum away from Coors, I just don't want the Mariners paying him as if he's going to hit as well as he does half his games in a hitter-friendly ballpark.

 

[ulmax]

pirates would not leave...pitsburgh....that would be there...AAA...and they would..play at least a few games there a year...prob 2double header..
with..with there AAA..on an eastern..road trip...a couple..times a year.....

 

[seahawksfan234]

I am totally cool with Bryant or Story (prefer Bryant). issue with your scenario is Suzuki. While he seems to be good, he isn’t proven and reports say he can’t play CF so he doesn’t have a role on the team outside of a 4th OF (I’m including JRod and Lewis) unless they make a few moves. I won’t pretend to know anything about him besides reports but if he is signed he is essentially Trammell/Fraley. IMO he isn’t remotely a guy (from his Japan numbers) they can sign and give a starting position, but on that same note if they sign him he is guaranteed a roster spot unless they somehow work out if he struggles he can play in Tacoma. I am not saying don’t sign him but unless Jerry makes some deals I think the money for him is better used for either a starter or bullpen help.

My inclusion of Suzuki is mostly predicated on the belief that Lewis will DH most of the time while getting minimal reps in center and that I don't want to bank on JRod holding down one of the corner outfield spots. I do believe JRod will be a superstar, but I'd rather not leave LF open under the assumption that he'll be ready immediately. I know it's two different player comparisons, but we saw the struggles Kelenic went through at the plate his first year.

I will concede that Suzuki is also an unknown commodity, so you're right that he might not be the best fit - especially if JRod does burst on the scene. I think I'm mostly just enticed by his potential.

Giving it some further thought, as much as I love Suzuki's potential, the Mariners might be better off holding off on him and crossing their fingers that Fraley, et. all hold down left field until Julio is ready.

Our considerations aside, I think the Mariners will make a strong push to land him. I think they'll do this less out of baseball practicality, but because of Suzuki's marketability to the Japanese audience and the substantial Asian American population that live in the area. In the end, the owners care most about making money and if Suzuki is decent they can make a lot of money off of him.

 

[seahawksfan234]

As soon as I replied I read this:

Report: Trevor Story not interested in changing positions

Story would reportedly prefer to remain at shortstop.

www.yardbarker.com

As much as I've emphasized how much I'd prefer to stay away from Story, that article is a little bit click-baity because when you look at the article, this is mentioned:

From Story’s perspective, however, he is focused on remaining at shortstop. According to Patrick Saunders of The Denver Post, “from everything I’ve been told, Story doesn’t want to switch positions,” though Saunders does add the caveat that it’s possible “that could change” depending on Story’s next destination.

 

[ulmax]

As soon as I replied I read this:

Report: Trevor Story not interested in changing positions

Story would reportedly prefer to remain at shortstop.

www.yardbarker.com

yeah..for mariners...he would 2b...but he would ss...when crawford.....was not in.....so...he is a ss...the only question..is...is he a 2b...as well...

yes he would fit...perfect for the mariners...in the line up......but if he wants somthing else...then...so be it...and mariners will find..someone.
else...of coarse...they will have to....

for him.....houston..may be better...ok then....with carera...seeming..to begoing else where...story is from texas...and if a position is open in texas...ok i get it.....

 

[ulmax]

and seattle looses again........till they find a 2B.....the only otherone...coming is ketel marte...next year...if that is what you are getting at..

and jedi does not want to trade for him this year....cuz it would take...marte..or kelenic......oakland is such a good trade..

i dont want to look at a marte trade...

 

[ulmax]

but matbe a 3 team..trade will work...i will look......close my eyes.....turn3 times...and hope...ill be back.in about half..

 

[ulmax]

ok one stop shopping...looks lie this....and they...giveup brash...

Name	Position	MTV ($Ms)
Bolt	OF	0
Chapman	3B	24.1
Manaea	SP	18.5
Marte	2B	37.3

79.90​

80.10​

0.20​

Angels Astros Athletics Blue Jays Braves Brewers Cardinals Cubs Diamondbacks Dodgers Giants Guardians Mariners Marlins Mets Nationals Orioles Padres Phillies Pirates Rangers Rays Red Sox Reds Rockies Royals TBD Tigers Twins White Sox Yankees Diamondbacks

Name	Position	MTV ($Ms)
Buelvas	OF	5.7
Clase	OF	2.4
Feliz	OF	2.4
Kelenic	OF	49.8
Walton	2B	0

60.30​

59.70​

-0.60​

Angels Astros Athletics Blue Jays Braves Brewers Cardinals Cubs Diamondbacks Dodgers Giants Guardians Mariners Marlins Mets Nationals Orioles Padres Phillies Pirates Rangers Rays Red Sox Reds Rockies Royals TBD Tigers Twins White Sox Yankees Athletics

Name	Position	MTV ($Ms)
Beer	1B	4
Brash	RHP	19.3
Perdomo	SS	18.4
Then	RHP	2.4
Trammell	OF	3.8

 

[ulmax]

ifyou aretrying to get to the point they need bryant....they really do not...just saying....
who they really need....is chapmon...so we will do again with no manaea...and see..

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[ulmax]

Jonathan Villar and frazier...may work...but they really need story..

and
Andrelton Simmons...is the end of the line

ATHLETICS

Josh Harrison​

Jed Lowrie

besdesthese guys..


cuz no one wants to play in seattle........i cant believe that...why..it does not...smell.or smogg.like LA....tacoma does though at times..

 

[ulmax]

yeah conforto...and chapman....and story to put them over the top....they could use manaea...but they could try margo...viciuos..as well

oh yeah sky bolt..

 

[ulmax]

Alan Trejo #13​

Colorado Rockies

• 2B
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 2"/205
• Age: 2

• lan Ray Trejo
• Status: Active
• Born: 5/30/1996 in Los Angeles, CA
• Draft: 2017, Colorado Rockies, Round: 16, Overall Pick: 476
• College: San Diego State
• MLB Debut: 4/10/2021
• Follow:

Year	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	SB	AVG	OBP	OPS
2021 MiLB Stats	334	56	93	17	72	2	.278	.324	.893
2021 MLB Stats	46	7	10	1	3	0	.217	.260	.586
MiLB Career Stats	1393	196	384	49	220	17	.276	.323	.790
MLB Career Stats	46	7	10	1	3	0	.217	.260	.586

• Next COL Game: 2-26 @ ARI

and he is really the end of te line...

 

[ulmax]

next years group...

Trea Turner

SS

30.3

R

R

LAD

$18,500,000

now that he is the best player in baseball...

Tim Anderson

SS

28.6

R

R

CHW

$12,500,000

but he wil cost draft picks
so will marte..

Ketel Marte

2B

28.2

S

R

ARI

$10,000,000

and frazier aswell

Adam Frazier

2B

31.9

L

R

SEA

if they miss out on story....there is turner....the best..and prob most expencive...player..in baseball....and anderson are top ten..

 

[ulmax]

Whit Merrifield​

EMBED THIS
2ND BASEAge:33-24dExp:5.101 YearsBat/Throw:Right/Right
Drafted:Round 9 (#269 overall), 2010College:South CarolinaAgent(s):(The L. Warner Companies, Inc.)
- More Royals -

now 33 years old.....and gitting old....but ya may be able to trade for him....only maybe..

they could trade...for kingery...but there is nothing saying..hewill be abel to come back..

Scott Kingery

2B

27.8

R

R

PHI

$13,000,000