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As long as he has more interceptions than touchdowns, it's a fine time to criticize him.

Also, I didn't see anyone say that he and the Browns offense didn't have a good game.
Had some issues earlier, but the previous 14 games from last year don't matter at all?
 

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Had some issues earlier, but the previous 14 games from last year don't matter at all?

Not really. Those games were last year. He's a 2nd year player, so it's still too early to know what he really is.

Maybe his struggles this year are like I have said previously, there's a book on him now and his o-line isn't as good. Or, maybe last year was as good as he'll ever be. I think it's the former. But until he strings together a few more games like the last one and a couple more seasons like last year, you can't rule out the latter.

And to be fair, some of the criticism is probably because of the talking he's done. If you're gonna talk, you gotta back it up and so far this year, he hasn't.
 

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AFC offensive player of the month...

10 td's...

0 int's...

1510 passing yards...

3 guesses, ladies and gents...:D

#readitandweep
 

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Had some issues earlier, but the previous 14 games from last year don't matter at all?

Those games were much the same in reality. Beat up on bad teams, lost against good teams. When Baker is forced to go to his 2nd or 3rd read, he leaves the pocket too early and the play is typically over (bad decision or throw away).
 

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AFC offensive player of the month...

10 td's...

0 int's...

1510 passing yards...

3 guesses, ladies and gents...:D

#readitandweep

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Not really. Those games were last year. He's a 2nd year player, so it's still too early to know what he really is.

Maybe his struggles this year are like I have said previously, there's a book on him now and his o-line isn't as good. Or, maybe last year was as good as he'll ever be. I think it's the former. But until he strings together a few more games like the last one and a couple more seasons like last year, you can't rule out the latter.

And to be fair, some of the criticism is probably because of the talking he's done. If you're gonna talk, you gotta back it up and so far this year, he hasn't.
Cannot really disagree, but would think if first 2 games were against Miami and AZ narrative would be different.....like it might be later after he plays them.

wish they could all follow the lead of Chubb who just shuts up and does his job. No drama.
 

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Those games were much the same in reality. Beat up on bad teams, lost against good teams. When Baker is forced to go to his 2nd or 3rd read, he leaves the pocket too early and the play is typically over (bad decision or throw away).
Only time your latter point has been true really is first few games this season.....but nice thing is in the other games he stayed in the pocket longer and moved around well to buy time....and it seems they went back to a scheme that was working.

You get most players/teams play better against bad teams than good, right?
 

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Cannot really disagree, but would think if first 2 games were against Miami and AZ narrative would be different.....like it might be later after he plays them.

wish they could all follow the lead of Chubb who just shuts up and does his job. No drama.

Agree. Nothing wrong with talking, but maybe accomplish something first.

The offense should feature Chubb more too. It would make things a lot easier for Baker.
 

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Agree. Nothing wrong with talking, but maybe accomplish something first.

The offense should feature Chubb more too. It would make things a lot easier for Baker.
Think this is a little overblown. Sure, O needs to feature Chubb but the guy had more carries against LAR than he did in the win against Bmore. Why he didn't get it at end vs. LA is perplexing though. Cannot see anything like that happening again.

was nice to see them incorporating concepts that worked well last year like play action more often and 12 formation with 2 TE sets.
 

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Had some issues earlier, but the previous 14 games from last year don't matter at all?
yah id say having the most td passes in NFL history for a rookie despite not even starting the first 3 games of the season is a fairly decent accomplishment....lol....especially in a year where your head coach and offensive coordinator were fired in the middle of the year.
 

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pretty crazy....i just heard that at least half a dozen law firms in Cleveland have been the subject of cyber-ransom attacks- and the attackers are demanding multi million dollar ransoms to release the servers and in the meantime the businesses are just basically shut down. So crazy.
 

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pretty crazy....i just heard that at least half a dozen law firms in Cleveland have been the subject of cyber-ransom attacks- and the attackers are demanding multi million dollar ransoms to release the servers and in the meantime the businesses are just basically shut down. So crazy.
Cannot say I've heard but work with guys who work with some local firms.
 

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AFC offensive player of the month...

10 td's...

0 int's...

1510 passing yards...

3 guesses, ladies and gents...:D

#readitandweep

Joe Flacco?

Andy Dalton?

Whoever the Jets QB is?
 
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