2019 Offseason Thread

[msgkings322]

On the plane....see you guys on the flip side. Most likely won't be on here much....until Sunday. Unless, I come on to post pics of scenery.....or banjos.

We'll just have to find a way to carry on until your triumphant return

 

[bksballer89]

another Heat/Cavs debate

 

[WiggyRuss]

James’ string of one-year contracts held the franchise captive. Anything short of a championship was unsatisfactory. To chase those aspirations, Cleveland refurbished its bench with champions like Kendrick Perkins and Mike Miller, rather than replenishing its roster with hungry veterans still hankering for that first taste of a deep postseason run. Maneuvering the league’s most expensive cap sheet was nothing short of daunting. Gilbert loomed. Griffin’s misery creeped on top of the stress. “We won despite our culture to a huge degree. And I knew it. I knew what we weren’t doing,” he says. “There were so many things during that period of time that I wanted to do differently. If you make everything about, ‘It’s a destination. Damn the torpedos, I gotta get there,’ that might be the only time you get there.” Even still, James accepted the GM’s feedback along the way. “He knew I could help him win,” Griffin says. And so James approved of Griffin as a basketball decision–maker, allowing a steady dialogue. “You’ve got to be willing to have very difficult conversations with LeBron,” Griffin says. “I always was, which is why we had a great relationship, because I would tell him what he needed to hear and he respected that I was telling him that for the right reasons.”

 

[Wamu]

On the plane....see you guys on the flip side. Most likely won't be on here much....until Sunday. Unless, I come on to post pics of scenery.....or banjos.

Have a good time. Where you going, the Gilligan Islands?

 

[msgkings322]

The pressures of annually supplementing LeBron James with a contending roster mounted endlessly. “Everything we did was so inorganic and unsustainable and, frankly, not fun. I was miserable,” Griffin says. “Literally the moment we won the championship I knew I was gonna leave. There was no way I was gonna stay for any amount of money.”

As champagne popped in the Cavs’ locker room, Griffin privately wept in an Oakland broom closet. A one-track mind had removed anything but delivering the city’s first championship in 52 years from consciousness. “I didn’t watch the league, and I didn’t love the game anymore,” Griffin says. “I was so fixated on outcome that I just totally lost my joy.” His NBA TV sidestep proved therapeutic. He rediscovered his passion for the game. An appetite to steer a franchise returned, the lingering bad taste from Cleveland crystalizing Griffin’s ideal next destination. “I was kind of chomping at the bit to do it right,” he says.

So basically your only championship was a joyless slog and the architect left to actually "do it right". Must be nice for you.

 

[WiggyRuss]

As I said NUMEROUS times to certain dumb-fucks--- Griffin didnt leave because of money.

He left because he was burnt out from "going for it"- and mortgaging every asset to try and win RIGHT NOW. He wanted to grow a team organically instead.

 

[DJ Fieri]

We'll just have to find a way to carry on until your triumphant return

Good. That's what I want to hear.

Dom't cry for me, Argentina.

 

[Wamu]

another Heat/Cavs debate

Time for a different topic. How about laughing at Melo for thinking he deserves a goodbye season?

 

[DJ Fieri]

As I said NUMEROUS times to certain dumb-fucks--- Griffin didnt leave because of money.

He left because he was burnt out from "going for it"- and mortgaging every asset to try and win RIGHT NOW. He wanted to grow a team organically instead.

And he left the Cavs. Be proud of that.

 

[WiggyRuss]

So basically your only championship was a joyless slog and the architect left to actually "do it right". Must be nice for you.

thats what it sounds like it was to Griffin.

And from his perspective I get it--- the expectations, mortgaging the future, not being able to grow a roster and team organically- every move a win-now move, managing those personalities.

It had to be exhausting.

 

[msgkings322]

Ummm.
I did the opposite of try to get into it, stating opinions are just that. I prefer Bosh, but if he or anyone prefers Love, great.
That should equate to moving on.

And then when he inevitably argues it, just ignore from then on.

 

[msgkings322]

Good. That's what I want to hear.

Dom't cry for me, Argentina.

Ok I wom't

 

[WiggyRuss]

this is what he says LeBron's priorities are now:

James’ contagious hunger to deliver a championship for Northeast Ohio dissipated. “There wasn’t a lot else for him,” Griffin says. “I don’t think he’s the same animal anymore about winning.” Many in the NBA now suggest James harbors two priorities: enduring to team with his eldest son, Bronny, and one day owning a franchise

 

[bksballer89]

As I said NUMEROUS times to certain dumb-fucks--- Griffin didnt leave because of money.

He left because he was burnt out from "going for it"- and mortgaging every asset to try and win RIGHT NOW. He wanted to grow a team organically instead.

Why I got to be a dumb fuck?

 

[bksballer89]

Time for a different topic. How about laughing at Melo for thinking he deserves a goodbye season?

I like that topic. He is crazy

 

[WiggyRuss]

Why I got to be a dumb fuck?

did you say Griffin left because Gilbert wasnt offering him enough money?

 

[bksballer89]

did you say Griffin left because Gilbert wasnt offering him enough money?

I don't recall

 

[Black Adam]

And he left the Cavs. Be proud of that.

I know I certainly am...

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

thats what it sounds like it was to Griffin.

And from his perspective I get it--- the expectations, mortgaging the future, not being able to grow a roster and team organically- every move a win-now move, managing those personalities.

It had to be exhausting.

He was exhausting, and that is why I said I hoped he’d leave if he insisted on annual opt outs.

 

[msgkings322]

I know I certainly am...

You're proud? I thought it was your worst nightmare....