2019 Offseason Thread

[Bart]

Lol. Virtually every word in your post is bullshit.

And a Lebron fan calling out someone else for "stacking a team" is hilarious.

Lebron's stacked teams are a myth. A washed up Wade and overrated Bosh shouldn't be considered stacked in the truest sense. A locker room cancer in Kyrie and a dud like Kevin Love shouldn’t either.

 

[trojanfan12]

I think you dislike LeBron because he's better than Kobe. And don't laugh. Through 15 full seasons LeBron averages more pts, rebs, asts, stls, has a better FG% & even a better 3 pt %. And he's hit a better % of last second shots.

As much as I dislike the Lakers Kobe's an all time great. To say anything else is just foolish. But going by pure hoops talent I think LeBron's better. I have LeBron in my all time starting 5. But not Kobe.

Magic, MJ, LeBron, Duncan, Olajuwon

Yeah, Kobe is at least top 15 all time, I'd even say top 10. But you can't be top 5 if you're not even #1 all time at your position.

 

[Bart]

wasn't kidding when I said I had this same opinion when he was here. My opinion he is a passive aggressive, narcissistic drama queen is because he is.

I still recall during Game 7 when he went down near the end like he was shot thinking "stop the drama and get up".

Have you ever landed like that on the court? That shit stings for a long while.

 

[dtgold88]

Lebron's stacked teams are a myth. A washed up Wade and overrated Bosh shouldn't be considered stacked in the truest sense. A locker room cancer in Kyrie and a dud like Kevin Love shouldn’t either.

Can't argue with irrational.

 

[Bart]

Yeah, Kobe is at least top 15 all time, I'd even say top 10. But you can't be top 5 if you're not even #1 all time at your position.

Who do you leave off your top 10 to include Kobe? I can't think of anyone Kobe can replace from the top 10.

 

[dtgold88]

Have you ever landed like that on the court? That shit stings for a long while.

Come on.....Looked bad in real time, but not on replay. Wasn't anything too terrible. But he wanted us to think his hand/wrist might fall off.

 

[Bart]

Come on.....Looked bad in real time, but not on replay. Wasn't anything too terrible. But he wanted us to think his hand/wrist might fall off.

You have way too much venom for Lebron considering he brought you the Cavs only championship.

 

[trojanfan12]

If they don't win a title first, yes. If they do, then no.

 

[Bart]

Can't argue with irrational.

Bosh was a superstar? Love was a superstar? Wade wasn't showing his mileage? Come on, man, let go of the hate.

 

[trojanfan12]

Lebron's stacked teams are a myth. A washed up Wade and overrated Bosh shouldn't be considered stacked in the truest sense. A locker room cancer in Kyrie and a dud like Kevin Love shouldn’t either.

So you've never actually watched a basketball game. Good to know.

 

[dtgold88]

You have way too much venom for Lebron considering he brought you the Cavs only championship.

Which is why I said I'm thrilled he came back and hoped he'd stay. You know it's not a rule you have to like every player, right?

He's the ultimate "do as I say not as I do" guy.

 

[trojanfan12]

Who do you leave off your top 10 to include Kobe? I can't think of anyone Kobe can replace from the top 10.

Depends on the top 10. It's not like there's an official list. I don't really give it a lot of thought past the top 5. I'd probably have Kobe in my top 10. But I'd have to care enough to actually make a list beyond top 5.

 

[CitySushi]

Bosh was a superstar? Love was a superstar? Wade wasn't showing his mileage? Come on, man, let go of the hate.

I think context matters. You're looking at the sum of the parts as if Lebron being there didn't have to do anything with their diminished roles/production.

At the time they joined up Wade was easily a top 5 player in the NBA. Bosh was also a probable top 15 player in the NBA. At the time Bosh was a 5x (consecutive Allstar), coming off a season when he just averaged 24/10.8/2.4. Wade was already a champion and was coming off 6 straight AS appearances and a season in which he averaged 26.6/4.8/6.5.

Kevin Love was arguably a top 10 player at the time he was traded. He was coming off a season in which he averaged 26.1/12.5/4.4 and shot 37% from 3.

Acting like these guys were subpar players is ridiculous. Lebron's teams have always been top heavy. You can argue about the additional players but every team in Lebron's prime was surrounded by 3 guys that were top 20 arguable players at worst.

I find it funny how all of a sudden Bosh and Love weren't world class players when they played with Lebron but overrated bums.

 

[CitySushi]

Depends on the top 10. It's not like there's an official list. I don't really give it a lot of thought past the top 5. I'd probably have Kobe in my top 10. But I'd have to care enough to actually make a list beyond top 5.

I hate Kobe, but I think he probably slides into my top 10. Hard to say who was better between guys like Kobe, Oscar, Jerry, etc.

 

[trojanfan12]

Which is why I said I'm thrilled he came back and hoped he'd stay. You know it's not a rule you have to like every player, right?

He's the ultimate "do as I say not as I do" guy.

Sounds a lot like how I felt about Kobe and how I feel about Lebron. Don't like either one, but I'm glad Kobe was a Laker and glad that Lebron is.

 

[dtgold88]

Bosh was a superstar? Love was a superstar? Wade wasn't showing his mileage? Come on, man, let go of the hate.

You didn't say "showing his age" (which he wasn't). You said "washed up" which is absurd. He was over 26 ppg and near 50% shooting. PPG went down some with Lebron but stayed over 20 and shooting % went up.

I never said Bosh and Love were superstars, but they were stars....and both were willing to sacrifice their games to play with Lebron.

But if you want to keep slurping Lebron I wont stop you.

 

[dtgold88]

I think context matters. You're looking at the sum of the parts as if Lebron being there didn't have to do anything with their diminished roles/production.

At the time they joined up Wade was easily a top 5 player in the NBA. Bosh was also a probable top 15 player in the NBA. At the time Bosh was a 5x (consecutive Allstar), coming off a season when he just averaged 24/10.8/2.4. Wade was already a champion and was coming off 6 straight AS appearances and a season in which he averaged 26.6/4.8/6.5.

Kevin Love was arguably a top 10 player at the time he was traded. He was coming off a season in which he averaged 26.1/12.5/4.4 and shot 37% from 3.

Acting like these guys were subpar players is ridiculous. Lebron's teams have always been top heavy. You can argue about the additional players but every team in Lebron's prime was surrounded by 3 guys that were top 20 arguable players at worst.

I find it funny how all of a sudden Bosh and Love weren't world class players when they played with Lebron but overrated bums.

I could go along with saying Bosh/Love were not superstars, but they were all stars and each was willing to change his game to play with Lebron.

And, yes, the idea Wade was anything less than a superstar when Lebron went there is absurd.

 

[Bart]

So you've never actually watched a basketball game. Good to know.

You watch with your Kobe goggles on, it is why you don’t see basketball impartiality.

 

[Bart]

Which is why I said I'm thrilled he came back and hoped he'd stay. You know it's not a rule you have to like every player, right?

He's the ultimate "do as I say not as I do" guy.

You should at least like the players that brought legitimacy to your joke of a franchise.

 

[dtgold88]

You watch with your Kobe goggles on, it is why you don’t see basketball impartiality.

You said Wade was washed up at age 28 coming off a season where he went for roughly 27, 6 and 5 with a PER of 28 (2nd highest of his career).

as I said...cannot argue with irrational.