2019 Offseason Thread

[bksballer89]

i hope they dont win 30 games this year. If they win 30 games this year it will be bad planning by the front office

So in other words no?

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSY

 

[WiggyRuss]

I offer a bet that is 100% objective--- who gets more guaranteed money. Something that is easily quantifiable and you can see who won without any kind of intepretation.

I get countered with "more valued"- a totally subjective term that means absolutely nothing. No explanation on how team options would work, player options- whats more value? more value to the player? If its just "value" to the player does no state income tax play a role in his decision? whats the value of a player option? certainly more than a team option. What about unguaranteed money that we couldnt possibly know if it will be picked up?

what if a guy wants to go to a contender and decides to take less money? Its VALUE to the player to get to a contender that doesnt show up in the contract

I offered a 100% objective reasonable bet---- who will be guaranteed more money this offseason-- that used your very own words- who gets more money--- and you become a huge pussy and try and make it into something subjective.

 

[Black Adam]

I'm disappointed that @TurnUpTheHeat didn't give the option of potato salad.

TurnUp didn't wanna see good food go to waste. Wiggy mighta just stuck his dick in it anyhow...

 

[WiggyRuss]

So in other words no?

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSY

ill bet you the Cavs dont win 30 games? lol, i mean thats what i think

if you dont think the Heat will win a playoff series fine- i would just hope you shut the fuck up about this ridiculousness of them getting a high seed

 

[bksballer89]

@TurnUpTheHeat

Kerr: Forced trade by Davis 'bad for the league'

 

[Black Adam]

I love how Cleveland's new motto is: Tank for the foreseeable future and try to pay as many guys who don't deserve it. What a time to be alive.

miss the arrogance of the old days...?

#howthemightyhavefallen

 

[bksballer89]

ill bet you the Cavs dont win 30 games? lol, i mean thats what i think

if you dont think the Heat will win a playoff series fine- i would just hope you shut the fuck up about this ridiculousness of them getting a high seed

Not ridiculous at all to see them getting a 5 seed.

How much better are the Nets with Durant being out the entire year? Kyrie isn't the greatest teammate so there is a possibility him with no KD may have a negative impact.

I don't think it is a stretch to say the Heat, Nets, & Raptors will be between 44-47 wins or so roughly.

As a Heat fan, I think 5 or 6 seed and 44-47 wins is reasonable expectations.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Not ridiculous at all to see them getting a 5 seed.

How much better are the Nets with Durant being out the entire year? Kyrie isn't the greatest teammate so there is a possibility him with no KD may have a negative impact.

I don't think it is a stretch to say the Heat, Nets, & Raptors will be between 44-47 wins or so roughly.

As a Heat fan, I think 5 or 6 seed and 44-47 wins is reasonable expectations.

but you obviously dont think they will win a playoff series

thats fine. i get it

 

[msgkings322]

lol is anyone from our country gonna play...?

Just JaVale and McCaw

 

[bksballer89]

but you obviously dont think they will win a playoff series

thats fine. i get it

I don't think because if they get a 5 or 6 seed then they won't be playing one of those teams. They'll obviously play one of the top teams

The only higher seed I would feel comfortable against is the Pacers

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

So I say "more money"- you are too much of a pussy to make that bet...so you try and change to a nebulous term like "more valued".

Please-the glue sniffing has to stop.

I have said from the beginning- I will bet that Tristan Thompson gets more money than Hassan Whiteside this offseason. I dont know how much more clear and straight forward that can be.

Higher Average Salary Per Season

That is only measuring stick that matters.

How/Why do we need to guess length of contract offers?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

@TurnUpTheHeat

Kerr: Forced trade by Davis 'bad for the league'

Wait till next CBA.

Players better be ready for change, or expand job resumes.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

2 yr/30 is better than 3 yr/33

#Justsaying

Not with #wiggymath

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

i am not worried about it. its why i have always said i will make the bet that Thompson gets more guaranteed money than Whiteside.

i am not going to rant and rave like a lunatic like you are.

from day one I said that I am PERFECTLY willing to bet that Tristan Thompson gets more guaranteed money than Hassan Whiteside.

if you dont want to take that bet thats fine- i am not going to rant and rave like a lunatic.

Only you can confuse basic common sense with rant and rave.

If you make $15/hr and work 40 hours a week, is that a better job then a person making $500 working 25 hours?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I offer a bet that is 100% objective--- who gets more guaranteed money. Something that is easily quantifiable and you can see who won without any kind of intepretation.

I get countered with "more valued"- a totally subjective term that means absolutely nothing. No explanation on how team options would work, player options- whats more value? more value to the player? If its just "value" to the player does no state income tax play a role in his decision? whats the value of a player option? certainly more than a team option. What about unguaranteed money that we couldnt possibly know if it will be picked up?

what if a guy wants to go to a contender and decides to take less money? Its VALUE to the player to get to a contender that doesnt show up in the contract

I offered a 100% objective reasonable bet---- who will be guaranteed more money this offseason-- that used your very own words- who gets more money--- and you become a huge pussy and try and make it into something subjective.

Total bullshit because there are many term options.
Only thing apples to apples in annual salary.

 

[WiggyRuss]

shit, i have no clue how you "value" what is a better contract- 2 years 38 million or 1 year 20 million. Or if its 2 years 38 million but the second option is a team option? Or if a guy takes less to go to a contender but the other guy takes more to go play in basketball Siberia somewhere. Or there are a TON of considerations in contracts- theres a thing called "unlikely/likely to reach incentives"- and getting an extra couple million dollars. How would you judge that?

my bet would be 100% objective and readily ascertainable who won with no "value" arguments.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

but you obviously dont think they will win a playoff series

thats fine. i get it

As of today, no reason to assume they are a top 4 EC team.
Heat fans are objective and realistic.

That being said, we were willing to bet.

 

[Bart]

Just JaVale and McCaw

You've been here a long time, do you know the origin of potato salad as an option?

 

[msgkings322]

You've been here a long time, do you know the origin of potato salad as an option?

This is really bothering you isn't it...

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

shit, i have no clue how you "value" what is a better contract- 2 years 38 million or 1 year 20 million. Or if its 2 years 38 million but the second option is a team option? Or if a guy takes less to go to a contender but the other guy takes more to go play in basketball Siberia somewhere. Or there are a TON of considerations in contracts- theres a thing called "unlikely/likely to reach incentives"- and getting an extra couple million dollars. How would you judge that?

my bet would be 100% objective and readily ascertainable who won with no "value" arguments.

More $/year is considered better to me.
I will say 2/38 can be viewed the same as 1/20 IMO, but straight salary takes any guess work out.
However, 3/36 is much better then for example 4/40.