2019 Offseason Thread

[Bart]

This is really bothering you isn't it...

Yes.

 

[WiggyRuss]

2 yr/30 is better than 3 yr/33

#Justsaying

i mean thats an easy one, sure-- but what if the 2 year 30 is a team option for year 2? then is it better? i would argue probably not.

what is the 3 year 33 is a player option for a third year that is insurance against injury or decline? what if a guy "values" going to a contender and takes a huge discount?

there is a big difference between signing in California with a crazy state income tax, and Texas with NO state income tax

too much subjectivity.

My point is exceedingly clear and exceedingly objective--- who gets more guaranteed money.

 

[dtgold88]

150-plus games lost due to injury.

#Payattentionorkeepyrheadupyrass

what? You claimed the Cavs can't expect a Lebron to come save them. I tried to remind you the Lakers are hoping he can save them as well. what does this have to do with LA injuries?

Always told you when you struggle with comprehension just ask for help.

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Steve Ballmar seems like a cool guy. I can tell his heart is really about basketball. Can't wait to hear him speak in this press conference. Good luck Clippers.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

i mean thats an easy one, sure-- but what if the 2 year 30 is a team option for year 2? then is it better? i would argue probably not.

what is the 3 year 33 is a player option for a third year that is insurance against injury or decline? what if a guy "values" going to a contender and takes a huge discount?

there is a big difference between signing in California with a crazy state income tax, and Texas with NO state income tax

too much subjectivity.

My point is exceedingly clear and exceedingly objective--- who gets more guaranteed money.

Exceedingly ridiculous when term of contract can be multiple years difference.

You do have a point on options, so remove that from equation.

Average guaranteed salary not including option year , if there is one, should be fair.

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Ballmer is yelling and screaming already lol. Love it.

 

[dtgold88]

LA can get guys like that to come as free agents. Cleveland?

cleveland didn't just get a guy like him...they got him.

 

[msgkings322]

Yes.

Honestly I think it was just a goof in one poll and people liked it so it became a thing. Nothing to worry about

 

[dtgold88]

I love how Cleveland's new motto is: Tank for the foreseeable future and try to pay as many guys who don't deserve it. What a time to be alive.

Gave me a chuckle have to admit.....but really what's the better plan? Good thing they have an owner willing to spend extra to get those picks.

 

[dtgold88]

Worked out, but very low % play.

Can't expect another Kyrie no doubt......but some of the extra picks can be used in future trades if not on a player who helps them.

 

[dtgold88]

i hope they dont win 30 games this year. If they win 30 games this year it will be bad planning by the front office

In fairness, kind of the same as offering a bet on Heat winning a series when he doesn't think they will.

Look at me basing my comment on post and not poster.

Not sure you saw, but FWIW my suggestion is you just make the bet and hope it's easy to judge who got the better contract. Agree on 3 posters to decide if those involved in bet cannot.

 

[dtgold88]

Not ridiculous at all to see them getting a 5 seed.

How much better are the Nets with Durant being out the entire year? Kyrie isn't the greatest teammate so there is a possibility him with no KD may have a negative impact.

I don't think it is a stretch to say the Heat, Nets, & Raptors will be between 44-47 wins or so roughly.

As a Heat fan, I think 5 or 6 seed and 44-47 wins is reasonable expectations.

I think it's reasonable.....but cannot say I'd be shocked if they were 7 or lower and won 35-40 either.

 

[dtgold88]

Higher Average Salary Per Season

That is only measuring stick that matters.

How/Why do we need to guess length of contract offers?

while I have to say you are right in suggesting 2-30 is better than 3-33, you think it's automatic 1-15 is better than, say, 3-42?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

In fairness, kind of the same as offering a bet on Heat winning a series when he doesn't think they will.

Look at me basing my comment on post and not poster.

Not sure you saw, but FWIW my suggestion is you just make the bet and hope it's easy to judge who got the better contract. Agree on 3 posters to decide if those involved in bet cannot.

In general, its usually not very hard to compare 2 contracts and know which is better.
I even agreed with him on option year.

 

[shopson67]

My thoughts, and the the thoughts of MANY other people- were that the signings to fill out the roster were ridiculously stupid ---- signing a bunch of malcontents that cant shoot set the team up for its eventual failure more than any other single factor.

Deflect your anger at the Lakers all you want; Cleveland isn't going to change as a result.

Lebron aside, if AD is available, the Lakers were always going to move whatever necessary to acquire him.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

while I have to say you are right in suggesting 2-30 is better than 3-33, you think it's automatic 1-15 is better than, say, 3-42?

No, and I told him his 2/38 would be about the same as 1/20.

The thing is we dont know, its all a guess, so only fair way is apples to apples which is annual guarantee.

 

[dtgold88]

More $/year is considered better to me.
I will say 2/38 can be viewed the same as 1/20 IMO, but straight salary takes any guess work out.
However, 3/36 is much better then for example 4/40.

I do agree with your premise here, but what about something like 1/15 vs. 3/36 or 3/42?

 

[dtgold88]

In general, its usually not very hard to compare 2 contracts and know which is better.
I even agreed with him on option year.

That's why I think you should take my suggestion.....participants can see the contract and decide the winner. If it's not obvious, have 3 posters you all agree on cast a vote.

 

[bksballer89]

I think it's reasonable.....but cannot say I'd be shocked if they were 7 or lower and won 35-40 either.

LOL Heat last won 35 games of fewer in the 2007-2008 season. They're not going to start that now again

 

[shopson67]

cleveland didn't just get a guy like him...they got him.

Sure. Go ahead and find another home-grown superstar that feels the need to come back and win a championship and you might find the next one to actually go to Cleveland of their own free will.