2019 Offseason Thread

[CitySushi]

may be if your a bro.

id side towards LeBron or Lillard- LeBron did a great job in train wreck actually....and lillard is pretty funny....im trying jennifer.

The Jennifer thing was McCollum.

I’m sure Klay isn’t going to be the funniest. He just is in real life.

 

[msgkings322]

may be if your a bro.

id side towards LeBron or Lillard- LeBron did a great job in train wreck actually....and lillard is pretty funny....im trying jennifer.

Facts, he was great in that. But Klay will be good too.

Davis is the most typecast...he looks like a Monstarr

 

[Shanemansj13]

Nets: STAY AWAY! FAR FAR AWAY!

It would be hilarious if the Nets turned down Kyrie and he went back to to Lebron AND took less than the max. Wow lolzzz

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Jennifer thing was McCollum.

I’m sure Klay isn’t going to be the funniest. He just is in real life.

you would know better then me i guess....every time i have seen him he seems like an empty headed frat boy dbag

 

[bksballer89]

I would suggest you guys keep hoopshype open for the next few weeks.

Great site to get all the rumors throughout the league during FA and just before the trade deadline

 

[WiggyRuss]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-lakers-didn-t-negotiate-010256376.html

Report: Lakers didn’t negotiate Anthony Davis trade date with Pelicans for initial agreement
With the Lakers’ trade for Anthony Davis, timing is everything.

The Lakers and Pelicans are reportedly set to complete the deal July 6. By making the trade then rather than July 30, the earliest the No. 4 pick could be traded as a signed player, the Lakers lose significant cap space.

With the later trade, the Lakers could use about $33 million of cap room then execute the deal with Davis getting his full $4,063,953 trade bonus.

With the earlier trade and Davis reportedly intent on receiving his full trade bonus, the Lakers project to have just $24 million of cap room.

That $9 million difference keeps the Lakers from getting a max free agent or reduces their spending power for role players.

Maybe the Lakers completely understood the ramifications of finalizing the trade July 6. It takes two teams to agree, and perhaps New Orleans – which would have faced complications flipping the No. 4 pick, not gotten him into summer league and had cap space tied up through July – refused to do the trade later.

But it sure doesn’t sound as if the Lakers knew what they were doing.

Ramona Shelburne on ESPN2:


If this was really their plan, they want to have a third star, this should have been central to the conversations with the Pelicans. And my understanding is that it was not, that it went all the way down the road and it was more, it has been described to me as, the Lakers called back – after everything had been discussed – about this.

It’s not necessarily too late for the Lakers to use max cap space and get Davis. They’re reportedly scrambling to include Moritz Wagner, Isaac Bonga and Jemerrio Jones in the trade.

But Wagner, Bonga and Jones have either positive or negative value. If they have positive value, the Lakers are surrendering even more in this trade. If they have negative value, the Lakers must surrender even more value – in the form of sweeteners – in the trade.

This could all be worth it. A team with LeBron James, Anthony Davis and a third star will be a championship contender next season. That matters most.

But if the Lakers handled this better, they could be in a stronger position to build around their stars. Though stars matter most, supporting casts also factor.

Or maybe New Orleans would have refused if the Lakers requested a July 30 trade date during initial negotiations. We’ll never know. But considering their massive haul, I suspect the Pelicans would have acquiesced if Los Angeles pushed. Perhaps, it would have taken a small additional asset going from the Lakers to New Orleans. But I can’t imagine it requiring more than that.

Now, by waiting until after to agreeing to terms with New Orleans, the Lakers have lost so much leverage. Their desperation shows, and preying teams – Pelicans or otherwise – will look to take advantage.

 

[WiggyRuss]

"they are reportedly scrambling to include Wagner, Bonga, and Jones in the trade"

for fucks sake this is insane.

"Now, by waiting until after to agreeing to terms with New Orleans, the Lakers have lost so much leverage. Their desperation shows, and preying teams – Pelicans or otherwise – will look to take advantage."

@Mecca

how does this shit happen to a professional sports franchise in 2019?

 

[Shanemansj13]

I would suggest you guys keep hoopshype open for the next few weeks.

Great site to get all the rumors throughout the lead during FA and just before the trade deadline

I’ve have it bookmarked for the last couple years lol

 

[Shanemansj13]

Wolves Trying To Deal For No. 4 Pick

Hmm interesting.

 

[bksballer89]

If I'm the Nets, I say fuck Kyrie and try to resign D-Lo, bring in Harris, and Horford.

Kyrie only comes in a package deal with Durant.

A starting lineup of D-Lo, Levert, Harris, and Horford is really good. They could find a PF in the draft or for cheap in FA

 

[wildturkey]

 

[wildturkey]

its crazy to me that these details were not ironed out when the deal was made. I mean- all the Lakers had to do was tell Davis, we want you, if we do this deal will you waive your trade kicker?

the date is the thing that even is crazier. Its a significant part of the negotations. If the Lakers get the later date- it benefits them cap wise. IF the PElicans get their date, they can trade the pick and the team that gets it doesnt have to wait on getting their player into cap for like 2 months and will actually have them for summer league etc.

One of the analysts suggested the Pelicans could sweat ANOTHER asset out of the Lakers if the LAkers wanted to move the trade date to get cap room....now thats hard for me to beleive but when you have the leverage you gotta use it.

You keep saying its crazy to you but is it? Have you not been paying attention? This is the same front office that didn't bother to tell their draft room who they were drafting last year (in fact, that room expected an entirely different pick) and then decided last offseason it was a good idea to sign people like Michael Fucking Beasley over Brook Lopez

 

[WiggyRuss]

wow....Tony Snell got Jon Leuer?

Jon Leuer?!?!?! Jon motherfucking Lueuer?

Bucks are a LOCK next year.

 

[bksballer89]

Tony Snell about to play for everyone in that division lol

Bulls, Bucks, and now Pistons

 

[Shanemansj13]

Tony Snell about to play for everyone in that division lol

Bulls, Bucks, and now Pistons

But he is super valuable so it makes sense lol

 

[CitySushi]

you would know better then me i guess....every time i have seen him he seems like an empty headed frat boy dbag

Triggered lol.

 

[tlance]

You keep saying its crazy to you but is it? Have you not been paying attention? This is the same front office that didn't bother to tell their draft room who they were drafting last year (in fact, that room expected an entirely different pick) and then decided last offseason it was a good idea to sign people like Michael Fucking Beasley over Brook Lopez

They have AD and LeBron, so it might work anyway.

But it is impossible to say this team is being but well managed.

It looks like Pelinka was in such a hurry to get off the phone and complete the AD trade that he completely ignored the cap nuances that would allow him to further build out the roster. We are talking about 9 million in cap space that matters to both, but a lot more to LA.

It is a little difficult for me to envision this front office putting the correct pieces around these 2 at this point.

 

[trojanfan12]

Wow.

Lillard too?

That would be a pretty solid squad.

Lebron, Dame, AD, Klay and Kuzma…

Plus, Taurasi and the Ogwumike twins...

Title next year confirmed.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[trojanfan12]

Howard Beck had a pretty spot on assessment of the trade on Dan Patrick this morning, imo.

Basically, he said that the Lakers won the trade, but lost the negotiation.

They won the trade because they got the best player.

But they lost the negotiation because they gave up more than they probably had to given how the market had dried up on the Pels.

End of the day, I don't think the Lakers had quite the leverage that some think. The Lakers were under tremendous pressure to get this trade done and as many have said, when you have the chance to get a player like AD, you do it and figure out the rest later.

As for the timing of the trade becoming official. From what was reported, the Pels wanted it done by the 6th (which makes a lot of sense for them). My guess is that the Lakers didn't really push them on it given the bad blood between them from the negotiations back in February.