2019-20 Quest for the cup(The Carter Hart era begins)

[awaz]

McKenzie: Flyers and Provorov working hard to hammer out deal today

Bobby Mac tweeting deal is done now. 6 years and he’s saying just under 7.

I like that.

 

[awaz]

Bobby Mac tweeting deal is done now. 6 years and he’s saying just under 7.

I like that.

6x6.75 according to Friedman. I like that deal.

 

[chy1127]

6x6.75 according to Friedman. I like that deal.

Beat me to it. I think long term under $7 million per is great for the team. I am still thinking TK at 3/$15 million will happen soon.

 

[awaz]

Beat me to it. I think long term under $7 million per is great for the team. I am still thinking TK at 3/$15 million will happen soon.

I don’t really understand the delay with Konecny. Even if the team/player value him differently, it can’t be that big of a gap. He’s very clearly not a 7-8-9 mil guy and very clearly not a 1-2-3 mil guy.

I agree though, I think he signs soon. Before the weekend is out I expect. Some tweeting it could come as soon as tomorrow morning.

 

[purdue81]

Lets's do this..... put on the orange underwear, and broke out the Flyers Tervis Tumbler this morning.

 

[lasgop8]

6x6.75 according to Friedman. I like that deal.

Great now he just has to return to form and earn that contract and we have a number 1 for 6 years.

 

[lasgop8]

I don’t really understand the delay with Konecny. Even if the team/player value him differently, it can’t be that big of a gap. He’s very clearly not a 7-8-9 mil guy and very clearly not a 1-2-3 mil guy.

I agree though, I think he signs soon. Before the weekend is out I expect. Some tweeting it could come as soon as tomorrow morning.

If JVR and Hayes are 7 million dollar players TK certainly is one also.

 

[lasgop8]

Camp starts today!!!!

 

[lasgop8]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/7-games-cant-miss-2019-190748608.html

 

[lasgop8]

Could the Flyers trade Travis Konecny?

 

[chy1127]

I don’t really understand the delay with Konecny. Even if the team/player value him differently, it can’t be that big of a gap. He’s very clearly not a 7-8-9 mil guy and very clearly not a 1-2-3 mil guy.

I agree though, I think he signs soon. Before the weekend is out I expect. Some tweeting it could come as soon as tomorrow morning.

Point, Marner, Rantanen, Tkachuk, Boeser, Connor and Laine are all unsigned RFAs. They all seem to be waiting for the first domino to fall.

 

[lasgop8]

Flyers announce groups, transactions and injury updates on Day 1 of camp

 

[purdue81]

Flyers announce groups, transactions and injury updates on Day 1 of camp

SERIOUSLY ?!??! Patrick has upper body injury ?

 

[Chris p Bacon]

I hope Myers can keep up his growth, kid looks like a high ceiling player IMO.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

SERIOUSLY ?!??! Patrick has upper body injury ?

Trade him and Konecny to the Avs for Rantanen!

 

[awaz]

Point, Marner, Rantanen, Tkachuk, Boeser, Connor and Laine are all unsigned RFAs. They all seem to be waiting for the first domino to fall.

I love TK, but he's not on their level right? IMO he's not. So far he's a 25 goal scorer, 50 point guy. And he's not bringing defensive or PK prowess to the table either.

Point - probably 40g, 80+ point guy
Marner - 90 pt guy
Rantanen - 30g, 80+ point guy
Tkachuk - 30g, 70 point guy
Boeser - 25/65 guy, so maybe he's more in range. But he hasn't played a full season yet due to injury
Connor - 35g / 65pt guy
Laine - 40g/60pt guy

Maybe I'm under-rating him, but IMO he's a tier below the big RFA forwards. Those guys are line drivers / difference makers. TK so far has been a great wingman (no pun intended) to elite players in Giroux/Couturier.

 

[lasgop8]

SERIOUSLY ?!??! Patrick has upper body injury ?

SERIOUSLY ?!??! Patrick has upper body injury ?

That is crazy. Its that overall number 2 pick we have the worst luck.

 

[awaz]

If JVR and Hayes are 7 million dollar players TK certainly is one also.

I like to defend JvR, but I would take TK over him any day. However, JvR is a very proven 30 goal player (28+ goal pace 7 years in a row) and he was a UFA. The UFA bloats the deal. If TK was UFA, I could see him getting close to 7M. But as an RFA he doesn't have that leverage.

Hayes has the same UFA bloat in his contract, but he also brings more than just offense. He can produce a similar amount of offense as TK, but he also brings sound defense and PK-ing. Plus he plays C which drives up his value.

 

[awaz]

SERIOUSLY ?!??! Patrick has upper body injury ?

Tweets saying no surgery required. Week to week and tough to say if he'll be ready to start the season.

What kind of upper body injury doesn't require surgery and takes 3.5-4 weeks to heal? Pulled muscles maybe?

I say he's ready to start the season.

 

[lasgop8]

I love TK, but he's not on their level right? IMO he's not. So far he's a 25 goal scorer, 50 point guy. And he's not bringing defensive or PK prowess to the table either.

Point - probably 40g, 80+ point guy
Marner - 90 pt guy
Rantanen - 30g, 80+ point guy
Tkachuk - 30g, 70 point guy
Boeser - 25/65 guy, so maybe he's more in range. But he hasn't played a full season yet due to injury
Connor - 35g / 65pt guy
Laine - 40g/60pt guy

Maybe I'm under-rating him, but IMO he's a tier below the big RFA forwards. Those guys are line drivers / difference makers. TK so far has been a great wingman (no pun intended) to elite players in Giroux/Couturier.

The last two years only two players have more even strength goals than TK. He is 7th in points in his draft class.

 

[lasgop8]

I like to defend JvR, but I would take TK over him any day. However, JvR is a very proven 30 goal player (28+ goal pace 7 years in a row) and he was a UFA. The UFA bloats the deal. If TK was UFA, I could see him getting close to 7M. But as an RFA he doesn't have that leverage.

Hayes has the same UFA bloat in his contract, but he also brings more than just offense. He can produce a similar amount of offense as TK, but he also brings sound defense and PK-ing. Plus he plays C which drives up his value.

TK is more valuable to this team than either one of those players and its bringing in players making that much money is why we are short changing our own home grown players. What are we going to do next year when Patrick Lindblom and Myers are due money or the year after when Sanheim and Hart have to get paid