2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Can't specifically say, I know guys like Richardson and Winslow keep working. In terms of team mentality, it seemed to go from underdog/hungry to satisfied quickly. As I said before, this was at best a 2nd round team. This team IMO underachieved considering teams like the Nets and Magic beat them out for the playoffs. Are their rosters so much better than ours. And fully aware about the injuries.

Agree
But tyler always gave 100%
Dion injured jj injured
Whiteside is only who mentally seemed to check out if not involved enough

 

[WiggyRuss]

Hard to imagine. Him being the size he is. He basically is a lock for a double-double once he gets low 20 MPG.

He has not had a season where he didn't avg a DD so to say a player who can give you a DD in under 30 minutes/limited fg attempts sucks is such a stupid comment.

As a bench player this year, he is avg 11 & 9 in 17 MPG.

Those are great numbers for a player coming off the bench.

the stats will never be a problem with Whiteside. Its how he actually fits into a team winning and losing. When you have a traditional big man on the court you have to adjust your schemes. You do not have nearly the flexibility, the ability to switch, the shooting, etc.

Its what Spoelstra has run into over hte last couple years. You have seen it first hand.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

the stats will never be a problem with Whiteside. Its how he actually fits into a team winning and losing. When you have a traditional big man on the court you have to adjust your schemes. You do not have nearly the flexibility, the ability to switch, the shooting, etc.

Its what Spoelstra has run into over hte last couple years. You have seen it first hand.

True, but it depends on the opponent also.
Some of what you say is correct, but Whiteside is FAR from a slow plotting center (like the ones Philly played last night).
The man is a legit 7'+. Of course he's going to be somewhat limited.
On the other hand, he makes it very difficult to get to the rim.

 

[CitySushi]

Hard to imagine. Him being the size he is. He basically is a lock for a double-double once he gets low 20 MPG.

He has not had a season where he didn't avg a DD so to say a player who can give you a DD in under 30 minutes/limited fg attempts sucks is such a stupid comment.

As a bench player this year, he is avg 11 & 9 in 17 MPG.

Those are great numbers for a player coming off the bench.

#futurewarrior

 

[CitySushi]

the stats will never be a problem with Whiteside. Its how he actually fits into a team winning and losing. When you have a traditional big man on the court you have to adjust your schemes. You do not have nearly the flexibility, the ability to switch, the shooting, etc.

Its what Spoelstra has run into over hte last couple years. You have seen it first hand.

Totally agree. It's no impossible to win with a traditional big, but you need the right fit and schemes to make it work. Take for example Rudy Gobert. I think he would still be a good player within Golden State right now, but he's not peak Rudy based on the schemes and what the Warriors run. Same goes for Whiteside, imo. He's absolutely useful, but you need the right players around him, the right coach, and the right scheme to fully utilize him.

But still if I'm a GM in the NBA, I wouldn't hesitate to kick the tires on him.

 

[bksballer89]

the stats will never be a problem with Whiteside. Its how he actually fits into a team winning and losing. When you have a traditional big man on the court you have to adjust your schemes. You do not have nearly the flexibility, the ability to switch, the shooting, etc.

Its what Spoelstra has run into over hte last couple years. You have seen it first hand.

True which is why a reserve role may actually be great for him imo. Play about 20 minutes and give your team 12 and 8 or something like that

 

[WiggyRuss]

Totally agree. It's no impossible to win with a traditional big, but you need the right fit and schemes to make it work. Take for example Rudy Gobert. I think he would still be a good player within Golden State right now, but he's not peak Rudy based on the schemes and what the Warriors run. Same goes for Whiteside, imo. He's absolutely useful, but you need the right players around him, the right coach, and the right scheme to fully utilize him.

But still if I'm a GM in the NBA, I wouldn't hesitate to kick the tires on him.

Rudy Gobert is good enough to mold a team around him

Whiteside is not

If you are going to build a team around a big man like that he has to be really really freaking good, and has to be consistent and has to be a leader or its just gonna fall apart. Gobert is that type of guy/talent. whiteside is not.

 

[WiggyRuss]

@CollinSexton02 finished 2018-19 w/ averages of 16.7 PTS, 40.2 3FG%, 83.9 FT%, 2.9 REB & 3.0 AST in 31.8 MIN. He became the 3rd rookie in @NBAHistory to average at least 16.0 PPG while shooting 40.0 3FG% & 80.0 FT% (Larry Bird 1979-80, Stephen Curry 2009-10) #NBAAllRookie1stTeam



Sexton > Ball

 

[CitySushi]

Rudy Gobert is good enough to mold a team around him

Whiteside is not

If you are going to build a team around a big man like that he has to be really really freaking good, and has to be consistent and has to be a leader or its just gonna fall apart. Gobert is that type of guy/talent. whiteside is not.

Yeah, I'm not saying build around him, I'm saying you need the right scheme and right players around him to be successful. That doesn't mean he's the focal point, but a great ancillary player. For example I think he'd do well on a team like the Hornets or the Grizzlies.

 

[Shanemansj13]

@CollinSexton02 finished 2018-19 w/ averages of 16.7 PTS, 40.2 3FG%, 83.9 FT%, 2.9 REB & 3.0 AST in 31.8 MIN. He became the 3rd rookie in @NBAHistory to average at least 16.0 PPG while shooting 40.0 3FG% & 80.0 FT% (Larry Bird 1979-80, Stephen Curry 2009-10) #NBAAllRookie1stTeam



Sexton > Ball

A very nice season. Blew me away how he improved his long-range shot. I see him averaging around 20 or 20+ next year and more assists.

 

[Heatles84]

Agree
But tyler always gave 100%
Dion injured jj injured
Whiteside is only who mentally seemed to check out if not involved enough

That's probably the biggest indictment. As a max player, you have to be more involved.

 

[Heatles84]

Their rosters are not "so much better" which is why they are only 1-3 games ahead of the Heat

Bad phrasing on my part. Are their rosters better than the Heat's? I don't believe they are. I'm not saying we're Milwaukee, Toronto, Philly or Boston. Hell, I don't even think we're Indiana (with Oladipo). But I think we should've been the 6th seed.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Personally, I think Wade had a better career than Dirk but that just may be me.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I had a chopped cobb salad (minus tomatoes) from Farmer Brothers with croutons I had at home. Delicious.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Rudy Gobert is good enough to mold a team around him

Whiteside is not

If you are going to build a team around a big man like that he has to be really really freaking good, and has to be consistent and has to be a leader or its just gonna fall apart. Gobert is that type of guy/talent. whiteside is not.

They are very similar.....just stop with your hatred.....

 

[CitySushi]

Personally, I think Wade had a better career than Dirk but that just may be me.

I think overall Wade may actually be the better player. He sacrificed a lot in his prime in order to make it work. But as a career, I'd lean Dirk.

 

[Heatles84]

Personally, I think Wade had a better career than Dirk but that just may be me.

He did.

 

[Heatles84]

I think overall Wade may actually be the better player. He sacrificed a lot in his prime in order to make it work. But as a career, I'd lean Dirk.

I go with Wade, taking Finals appearances and championships out of the equation. Sure, Dirk's over 30k points, but he's played what? 20 years? At some point you're going to get up there in points if you play long enough. Wade is arguably one of the greatest defensive SGs of all-time, and is relegated as the best shot-blocking guard of all-time. Wade's accomplishments on the defensive side is what gives Wade the edge to me.

/ends homer rant.

Edit: That's not saying Dirk's chopped liver. I actually think it's a good (and close) comparison.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I think overall Wade may actually be the better player. He sacrificed a lot in his prime in order to make it work. But as a career, I'd lean Dirk.

Wade was a 2-way player.....


Dirk was not.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Wade was arguably one of the better defensive guards of all time.


Dirk wasn't known for his defense or his rebounding. Very lacking in rpg when it comes to a big man and his defense was non-existent.


DJ is here to stir the pot and stimulate sports convo.