2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

[dtgold88]

Awesome comeback...

Kind of like this pearl of wisdom....

"You wont have to worry about him missing playoffs games, prob for the remainder of contract if Cavs keep him."

 

[dtgold88]

Cavs salary: 123,699,800
Heat salary: 125,032,626

Cavs wins: 19
Heat wins: 38

Cavs cost/win: $6,510,515.79
Heat cost/win: $3,290,332.27

Which team was overpaid?

Cavs were 15 minutes removed from a title team. Had a team built to play with Lebron and if you didn't know had just played in the Finals. Heat were built for NBA Purgatory?

 

[shopson67]

Cavs were 15 minutes removed from a title team. Had a team built to play with Lebron and if you didn't know had just played in the Finals. Heat were built for NBA Purgatory?

Cavs lost Lebron and their spending only went down by about $12M, yet lost just a few more games....and this is before Love's extension kicks in.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Cavs salary: 123,699,800
Heat salary: 125,032,626

Cavs wins: 19
Heat wins: 38

Cavs cost/win: $6,510,515.79
Heat cost/win: $3,290,332.27

Which team was overpaid?

You do realize the Cavs are coming off 4 straight Finals appearances. That isn't exactly apples to oranges LOL.

Looks like next year:

Heat - $136M.

Expiring contracts - $46M
Whiteside $27M
Dragic $19M

Those aren't exactly 2 contracts that will be easy to trade if they try.

Cavs - $136M.

Expiring contracts - $83M
Delly - $10M
Knight - $16M
J.R. - $16M
Clarkson - $13M
Henson - $10M
TT - $18M

Most of these contracts are very trade-able imo. TT, might be the only one if they decide that could be tough otherwise they could get a lot of assets for these contracts if they decide to trade.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

so if he signed a 2 or 3 year deal you know for a fact his kids would have stayed? Did they go to Chicago.

Kids went to Chicago, yes.

The other question is a ridiculous hypothetical.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

You do realize the Cavs are coming off 4 straight Finals appearances. That isn't exactly apples to oranges LOL.

Looks like next year:

Heat - $136M.

Expiring contracts - $46M
Whiteside $27M
Dragic $19M

Those aren't exactly 2 contracts that will be easy to trade if they try.

Cavs - $136M.

Expiring contracts - $83M
Delly - $10M
Knight - $16M
J.R. - $16M
Clarkson - $13M
Henson - $10M
TT - $18M

Most of these contracts are very trade-able imo. TT, might be the only one if they decide that could be tough otherwise they could get a lot of assets for these contracts if they decide to trade.

Do you realize that contracts the Heat handed out were in the crazy first summer of cap increase?

 

[WiggyRuss]

But wouldn’t they be better off winning 20 games and hoping for a top 3 pick?

they have done that and added high lotto picks like Gordon, Bamba, Isaac. Now they are at the point where they need to add to the team and start making progress.

I hope that is the position the Cavs will be in after next season...they will have Sexton, this years lotto pick, and next years pick, hopefully a bunch of extra picks. After that its time to try and get the young guys some experience and make their moves. ---kind of like where Orlando is at this year.

 

[msgkings322]

nice! lol

Don't flatter yourself cupcake, you know as well as anyone how trolling works.

Or are you saying you are obsessed with the various Heat and Laker fans here you can't stop messing with?

 

[YourFriendGannon]

Do you realize that contracts the Heat handed out were in the crazy first summer of cap increase?

They never should have matched the Tyler Johnson offer sheet. The other contracts were all reasonable.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

they have done that and added high lotto picks like Gordon, Bamba, Isaac. Now they are at the point where they need to add to the team and start making progress.

I hope that is the position the Cavs will be in after next season...they will have Sexton, this years lotto pick, and next years pick, hopefully a bunch of extra picks. After that its time to try and get the young guys some experience and make their moves. ---kind of like where Orlando is at this year.

Double talk.
Based on your other 10000 posts, being first round fodder is a terrible situation.
Regardless of whom they added the last few drafts, you’re now saying the experience they will gain outweighs getting a potential top 3 player this draft?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

They never should have matched the Tyler Johnson offer sheet. The other contracts were all reasonable.

His was ok money wise over 4 years.
I think they thought he’d restructure vs the poison pill it was.
He wouldn’t.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Double talk.
Based on your other 10000 posts, being first round fodder is a terrible situation.
Regardless of whom they added the last few drafts, you’re now saying the experience they will gain outweighs getting a potential top 3 player this draft?

I am saying you can only tank so long and get so many high level college players before you have to add veterans and make your move and see if you drafted the right guys at the top of the draft. If Orlando drafted the right guys out of Isaac, Bamba and Gordon they will be in good shape going forward- if they didnt, the best they will probably do is a low seeded playoff team that will have a limited ceiling.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Do you realize that contracts the Heat handed out were in the crazy first summer of cap increase?

i mean is that an excuse for Riley's stupidity? James Johnson at 16M a year is cool because the Lakerse just gave Mozgov the same ! lol.

 

[YourFriendGannon]

i mean is that an excuse for Riley's stupidity? James Johnson at 16M a year is cool because the Lakerse just gave Mozgov the same ! lol.

Far less stupid than what the Lakers did that offseason.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Do you realize that contracts the Heat handed out were in the crazy first summer of cap increase?

Yeah so, both teams will have cap space in the future but the Cavs will have cap space a year earlier and more cap, most likely a better core along with young players and this will be 2-3 years coming off 4 straight years in the Finals. The Heat when they have cap space will be coming off 6-7 years, the last time they made the Finals LOL. Huge difference and way faster rebuild, Riley just did a poor job.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Yeah so, both teams will have cap space in the future but the Cavs will have cap space a year earlier and more cap, most likely a better core along with young players and this will be 2-3 years coming off 4 straight years in the Finals. The Heat when they have cap space will be coming off 6-7 years, the last time they made the Finals LOL. Huge difference and way faster rebuild, Riley just did a poor job.

exactly.

Cavs, coming off 4 straight Finals appearances and going balls to the wall for 4 straight years, are already in better shape going forward.

the Cavs will have a top lotto pick, have 2 EXTRA first rounders and a boatload of 2nd rounders.

The Heat owe a first round pick and have traded away all their 2nd rounders for years to come.

Cavs will win a playoff series before Miami does. Take it to the bank.

 

[YourFriendGannon]

Cavs will win a playoff series before Miami does. Take it to the bank.

Took you long enough last time. Five years or something like that. You won't have a hometown superstar + rigged lottery to bail you out this time.

 

[dtgold88]

Cavs lost Lebron and their spending only went down by about $12M, yet lost just a few more games....and this is before Love's extension kicks in.

Yes, and they took on a bad contract (Knight) for a 1st rounder because their owner will do things like that

 

[LAD]

we don't all know it because, in fact, Lebron did commit after his rookie deal. But he took a shorter deal than a max for deal #2 and never showed any signs he would stay, thus, making it harder to lure FAs.

Notice when he committed in 2014 they could more easily bring guys in? Like that love fellow who asked to be moved here and resigned?

lol
All roads lead back to Love for you.

And, what other star has left their team to go play with LBJ? None. We'll see if this continues to hold true this summer in LA.

 

[dtgold88]

Kids went to Chicago, yes.

The other question is a ridiculous hypothetical.

That's the point....you have no clue what he would have done with his kids had he signed a longterm deal. McFly?