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2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

dtgold88

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Yes. Far better. Not even close.

And Love only averaged 5 more points per game for that 5 games sample.
agree....as long as we ignore rebounds, steals and blocks. And that Love's offense was far better especially when we consider GS tries to stop Love and the cavs want Green to shoot.
 

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We are only talking about this 1 random 5-game sample, remember? I'm sure he played better D but far better? and of course we also have to ignore the scoring. Not just the scoring but the fact Love needs to be accounted for on O helping out others while teams beg Green to shoot.

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Once you account for assists Draymond was responsible for more total scoring than Love was.

Yet, I will not say Draymond is a better offensive player. Because that would be stupid.

So you need to stop comparing their defense like it is some type of debate.
 

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That's the same in Florida. Wade's the 2nd most celebrated athlete 2nd to Marino. If the Phins ever win a Super Bowl, no one would even remember the Heat's Big 3 era down in Miami - it'd be a distant 2nd.
Told my son during cavs parade if the Browns even win a division that might dwarf the cavs title......not that we were not extremely excited when it happened.
 

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And,

Once you account for assists Draymond was responsible for more total scoring than Love was.

Yet, I will not say Draymond is a better offensive player. Because that would be stupid.

So you need to stop comparing their defense like it is some type of debate.
I do think green is a better defender who said otherwise?. Just not sure his D is as superior as love's O is to green. You also discount GS tries to stop Love and it opens up the court for other Cavaliers on offense. The Cavs want Green to shoot.
 

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agree....as long as we ignore rebounds, steals and blocks. And that Love's offense was far better especially when we consider GS tries to stop Love and the cavs want Green to shoot.

LOL.

You are Completely irrational when it comes to Kevin Love.

Over 2 Finals, Love averaged 3 more rebounds, fewer steals, fewer blocks and once assists are factored in he actually accounted for less total scoring than Draymond did and he also shot a lower percentage from the field.

But, "he clearly outplayed Draymond".

Only in Cleveland fantasyland bro.
 

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I do think green is a better defender who said otherwise?. Just not sure his D is as superior as love's O is to green. You also discount GS tries to stop Love and it opens up the court for other Cavaliers on offense. The Cavs want Green to shoot.

Do they?

They always account for him. But the defensive game plan is centered around LeBron and Kyrie.

Love was a distant 3rd option and not even used to the degree that Klay was used because Cleveland's offense just didn't flow as well.
 

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LOL.

You are Completely irrational when it comes to Kevin Love.

Over 2 Finals, Love averaged 3 more rebounds, fewer steals, fewer blocks and once assists are factored in he actually accounted for less total scoring than Draymond did and he also shot a lower percentage from the field.

But, "he clearly outplayed Draymond".

Only in Cleveland fantasyland bro.
Fair enough. was only clear in 2016-17. But he outplayed him the next year.
 

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Do they?

They always account for him. But the defensive game plan is centered around LeBron and Kyrie.

Love was a distant 3rd option and not even used to the degree that Klay was used because Cleveland's offense just didn't flow as well.
Account? I guess. But if Green has the ball and isn't near the basket they will back off and hope he shoots often.
 

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will say Green did ball out in 2016......might have been MVP had GS won.
 

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are they wild about it now? If you have called him a bust as a pick doesn't it stand to reason it was a foolish contract to hand out?

waiters was Plan B to Durant?

Waiters is a solid starting SG. But he's no all-star.
 

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Fair enough. was only clear in 2016-17. But he outplayed him the next year.

So, you think it was clear in a series where Love scored 5 more points, 1 more rebound and shot 38% from the field?

Dray wasn't great offensively that series either. But Love wasn't "clearly better".

And IMO, Dray was better in '18 and outplayed him so soundly in '16 that it should end all debate.

And let's stop acting like Cleveland's offense ran through Love. He got most of his shots off spot ups and put backs.

But go ahead and post a poll about who played better in the Finals if you want.

My guess is that Kevin Love wouldn't get many non-Cleveland votes.

But I am not going to change your mind, so I am moving on.
 

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This fucking world we live in.....a 35-40yo man assaulted a woman in her 70's on the train in the Bronx and all people could do was pull out their cell phones and record it.....not 1 person stepped in and tried to stop it.
I would have whooped his ass or attempted to for doing that to somebody's mom and grandmother.

#Disgusted

They found him and he's not going to do well at Rikers.
 

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Just a few minutes until Ja time.

I am pumped.

Florida St will be a tough test. They are really long and really good defensively.
 

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Just a few minutes until Ja time.

I am pumped.

Florida St will be a tough test. They are really long and really good defensively.

Morant is already a better shooter than Russ
 

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Morant is already a better shooter than Russ

Definitely.

But let's be honest, that isn't all that hard.

FSU is darn near unbeatable when they make their 3s. Not looking good for the Racers.
 

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A lot of close games, but so far this has been a pretty chalky bracket for the most part.

Only 1 top 4 seed has lost so far and Michigan and FSU are looking good.
 

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Really like how Morant has competed so far. Tells a lot about a player how they compete through adversity.

Also, Leonard Hamilton just called Morant the "best player in the country". Pretty telling since he saw Zion twice.
 

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A lot of close games, but so far this has been a pretty chalky bracket for the most part.

Only 1 top 4 seed has lost so far and Michigan and FSU are looking good.

True but lots of upsets from 5-7
 
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