2017 Texas Rangers offseason thread

[Duane1952]

Ohtani goes to the Angels... fuck.

JD better get off his butt and make this team better.

 

[darrylgann]

Ohtani goes to the Angels... fuck.

I hate the Angels!

 

[DT LUNA]

Time for we experts to guess again. Hopefully we get Yu at least and another big fish or two.

 

[Kelleyman]

Here is our guy. Tough miss on Ohtani

Still trying to figure out ABs for him although AP is often on DL. 1B. LMHO

 

[Kelleyman]

I hate the Angels!

Life goes full circle. Hating those dreaded Angels

 

[Duane1952]

Time for we experts to guess again. Hopefully we get Yu at least and another big fish or two.

With Yu's reluctance to throw his best pitch the fastball, I think rather have Cobb.

 

[saddles]

I love Yu and would welcome him back, but I just don't see where that gets us without another TORP to pair with him. I just don't see Hamels as being more than a #3 on a WS contender.

Then of course there is the unknown as far as Fister and Minor are concerned.

 

[scotsman1948]

we now have to sign at least 2 TOR starters or just hang it up. a rotation of Hamels, Minor, Fister, Perez and Bush(?) ain't going to cut it

 

[scotsman1948]

With Yu's reluctance to throw his best pitch the fastball, I think rather have Cobb.

i think i would rather have both

 

[saddles]

i think i would rather have both

I doubt they can afford both, but even if they could I am not sure that would be enough pitching talent near the top of the rotation.

One guy I don't want is Arrieta.

 

[saddles]

I am thinking that we need to develop a #1, #3 and #4 over the next 2 years or so in order to get back to the level of WS contender. Then we have to be able to sign a #2 at some point. Even if we developed all of those guys it would take a year or two in the big leagues before they were ready to reach their potential.

At least by that time we will know if we need to replace Odor and we should hopefully be able to find a catcher in that time as well. In the mean time we need to draft well in case we have to trade some prospects in a few years to finish out our team.

That is going to take a lot of skilled development and a good amount of luck.

 

[Duane1952]

I am thinking that we need to develop a #1, #3 and #4 over the next 2 years or so in order to get back to the level of WS contender. Then we have to be able to sign a #2 at some point. Even if we developed all of those guys it would take a year or two in the big leagues before they were ready to reach their potential.

At least by that time we will know if we need to replace Odor and we should hopefully be able to find a catcher in that time as well. In the mean time we need to draft well in case we have to trade some prospects in a few years to finish out our team.

That is going to take a lot of skilled development and a good amount of luck.

Good luck with the Rangers developing their starting pitching. All they have lately is Perez.

 

[Duane1952]

How were the Angels able to sign Ohtani and Maitan.

 

[saddles]

Good luck with the Rangers developing their starting pitching. All they have lately is Perez.

It would definitely take a lot better job than they have done since Harrison, Holland and Feliz came up. Two of them they had to trade for and that might be the key now, that is if JD could ever be convinced to trade away present talent for the future like he did when we acquired Harrison and Feliz.

Our future doesn't look too rosy right now.

 

[donaldson79]

Me too but don't count on it.

Yeah and you ain't 53 either....ha ha ha

 

[scotsman1948]

I am thinking that we need to develop a #1, #3 and #4 over the next 2 years or so in order to get back to the level of WS contender. Then we have to be able to sign a #2 at some point. Even if we developed all of those guys it would take a year or two in the big leagues before they were ready to reach their potential.

At least by that time we will know if we need to replace Odor and we should hopefully be able to find a catcher in that time as well. In the mean time we need to draft well in case we have to trade some prospects in a few years to finish out our team.

That is going to take a lot of skilled development and a good amount of luck.

the problem i have with that plan is twofold: first we haven't done a good job of developing TORP so to expect us to do it now within a 2 or 3 year period and to do it with a #1much less a #2 & #3 is totally unrealistic; and second what does the team do over those 5+ years while they wait for them to develop? we lose Hamels after 2018 so bring a couple of TORP now, hope Minors comes back to form and provides a #3 and fit Jarado, Ragans or which ever pitcher is ready in our minor league system behind them. then as they reach TORP levevel move them up

 

[UK Cowboy]

we now have to sign at least 2 TOR starters or just hang it up. a rotation of Hamels, Minor, Fister, Perez and Bush(?) ain't going to cut it

The only thing that rotation would do would be to secure a top 3 draft pick

 

[Duane1952]

The only thing that rotation would do would be to secure a top 3 draft pick

If that's the rotation, I bet your right.

 

[saddles]

the problem i have with that plan is twofold: first we haven't done a good job of developing TORP so to expect us to do it now within a 2 or 3 year period and to do it with a #1much less a #2 & #3 is totally unrealistic; and second what does the team do over those 5+ years while they wait for them to develop? we lose Hamels after 2018 so bring a couple of TORP now, hope Minors comes back to form and provides a #3 and fit Jarado, Ragans or which ever pitcher is ready in our minor league system behind them. then as they reach TORP levevel move them up

That is why I added that last sentence.

Signing two TORP is even more unrealistic as we have never signed any through regular free agency. In other words, we are in sad shape for awhile.

 

[saddles]

the problem i have with that plan is twofold: first we haven't done a good job of developing TORP so to expect us to do it now within a 2 or 3 year period and to do it with a #1much less a #2 & #3 is totally unrealistic; and second what does the team do over those 5+ years while they wait for them to develop? we lose Hamels after 2018 so bring a couple of TORP now, hope Minors comes back to form and provides a #3 and fit Jarado, Ragans or which ever pitcher is ready in our minor league system behind them. then as they reach TORP levevel move them up

I actually said a #1, #3, and #4, but I definitely understand what you are getting at.