2017 Texas Rangers offseason thread

[darrylgann]

With the Cain signing and now Brewers looking to trade for a starter, I'm guessing Darvish said 'Thank you, no thank you" to their contract offer.

 

[DT LUNA]

With the Cain signing and now Brewers looking to trade for a starter, I'm guessing Darvish said 'Thank you, no thank you" to their contract offer.

Not sure what Yu wants.

 

[darrylgann]

Jon Morosi‏Verified account @jonmorosi 26m26 minutes ago
Tonight, the @Brewers -- who play in the smallest @MLB television market, per @Nielsen -- have committed to the largest free-agent contract of the offseason.

 

[saddles]

Not sure what Yu wants.

I think he wants to come back here.

 

[DT LUNA]

I think he wants to come back here.

May be. He certainly has had plenty of opportunities to sign but if he turned down the Yankees he sure can't expect to see anything like that here. So, if money is not his game, what is?

 

[UK Cowboy]

Kind of wish these guys were on club now

Maybe if we had kept Nolan...

 

[Kelleyman]

Maybe if we had kept Nolan...

......we would have never had this Tslent in the first place. Ya think?

 

[UK Cowboy]

......we would have never had this Tslent in the first place. Ya think?

Fortunes with, fortunes without...and fortunes down south. Proof is in the pudding

 

[saddles]

I wonder if the Rangers and/or Yu would do a 4 year deal with 2 more option years to kick in under certain circumstances with the per year amounts as follows.

2018 $14 million
2019 $18 million
2020 $24 million
2021 $28 million

Then 2 more option years with AAVs close to $24 million.

It keeps this year low while we are still paying Beltre and Hamels.

 

[donaldson79]

So, if money is not his game, what is?

Let's keep in mind that money is "at least in part" part of the game. After all, it's not like he's not going to get a kings ransom regardless of where he signs.

Look at the example saddles put forth. Good example too I might add. But anyway, that's a minimum of a $80 million investment.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Maybe if we had kept Nolan...

 

[True Rangers Fan]

 

[scotsman1948]

I wonder if the Rangers and/or Yu would do a 4 year deal with 2 more option years to kick in under certain circumstances with the per year amounts as follows.

2018 $14 million
2019 $18 million
2020 $24 million
2021 $28 million

Then 2 more option years with AAVs close to $24 million.

It keeps this year low while we are still paying Beltre and Hamels.

that wouldn't get it done. add 2 M each of the 4 years and 6M on each of the option years

 

[jta4437]

Maybe even one where Nick Williams would force Calhoun to DH. Then Taveras could have been trade bait.

Well you're talking about the Hamels trade which while we overpayed, was an improvement at the time and Hamels has actually played relatively well throughout and could be argued an almost necessary evil, and Williams was one of those being sent that way regardless, basically Williams was gone regardless (I think we had an OFer logjam at that point and someone was getting traded)

My comment was purely about the Lucroy trade which I always hated the moment it was brought up the year before it was actually made

 

[jta4437]

With the Cain signing and now Brewers looking to trade for a starter, I'm guessing Darvish said 'Thank you, no thank you" to their contract offer.

They have plenty of chips to make a deal now that they've brought in 2 OFers, they already had Braun, Domingo Santana, Hernan Perez, Phillips, and Keon Broxton

But maybe they slide Braun to 1B and Santana stays in RF

 

[saddles]

Well you're talking about the Hamels trade which while we overpayed, was an improvement at the time and Hamels has actually played relatively well throughout and could be argued an almost necessary evil, and Williams was one of those being sent that way regardless, basically Williams was gone regardless (I think we had an OFer logjam at that point and someone was getting traded)

My comment was purely about the Lucroy trade which I always hated the moment it was brought up the year before it was actually made

Yeah, a lot of folks liked the Hamels trade. I felt the same way about both trades. I was really looking forward to an outfield of Williams, Brinson and Mazara.

 

[jta4437]

Yeah, a lot of folks liked the Hamels trade. I felt the same way about both trades. I was really looking forward to an outfield of Williams, Brinson and Mazara.

Difference, I never saw Williams making it to the Rangers, I always saw him as eventual trade bait, there were too many other players I liked better

 

[donaldson79]

From ESPN's Keith Law.

22. Texas Rangers
2017 rank: 15

Most of the good stuff in the Rangers' system is far away, including the lone top-100 prospect, Leody Taveras. As usual, the Rangers have a lot of high-beta upside plays in their lower levels, including 2017 first-rounder Bubba Thompson, who earned positive reviews from scouts who saw him in the Arizona Rookie League. They're extremely light on starting pitching, however, which is alarming, given their current rotation, with only one starter under a guaranteed contract beyond 2018 and team options on three others for that season.

 

[Kelleyman]

Well you're talking about the Hamels trade which while we overpayed, was an improvement at the time and Hamels has actually played relatively well throughout and could be argued an almost necessary evil, and Williams was one of those being sent that way regardless, basically Williams was gone regardless (I think we had an OFer logjam at that point and someone was getting traded)

My comment was purely about the Lucroy trade which I always hated the moment it was brought up the year before it was actually made

Yes the Lucroy in hindsight was a disaster. Hamels has lived up to his deal. But yes I wanted Brinson over Nick W

 

[donaldson79]

My comment was purely about the Lucroy trade which I always hated the moment it was brought up the year before it was actually made

I know I drink too much Ranger Kool-Aid, and this is a classic example.

I thought/expected us to be getting a good, to very good defensive catcher, above avg arm, good to very good bat, and excellent teammate.

None of this was true.