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2017 NBA Offseason Thread

shopson67

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Because Melo is a bad contract. He has little to no trade value. The Knicks can't seriously hope to get anything but bad contracts in return.

Hard to say he has little to no trade value if both the Cavs and Rockets, both contenders, are after him. In this day and age, his $25M salary isn't that out of line (not far from what worn-out Wade is getting) and that contract is potentially expiring as he can opt out next year (if still playing well of course, or if he wants to move on).

He averaged 23/6 last year, not far off from his career averages of 25/7. His FG% was down a little, but his 3% was up over his career average. He's just not a lead player at this point, but can be the #2 or #3 option on a super team quite well, depending on system fit.

The Knicks should be expecting draft picks along with any undesirable contracts if those are indeed included.

With a new GM now in place, they will have to go through everything again to get everyone on the same page before any trade discussions resume.
 

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Rondo is what he is. A distributing PG who can't shoot and tends to overdribble. He can help a team if the fit is right, but he isn't a difference maker anymore.

He also doesn't defend much anymore, and can be a problem in the locker room and will sulk on the floor if he's unhappy. Unless you're going to cater to him, stay away.
 

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Hard to say he has little to no trade value if both the Cavs and Rockets, both contenders, are after him. In this day and age, his $25M salary isn't that out of line (not far from what worn-out Wade is getting) and that contract is potentially expiring as he can opt out next year (if still playing well of course, or if he wants to move on).

He averaged 23/6 last year, not far off from his career averages of 25/7. His FG% was down a little, but his 3% was up over his career average. He's just not a lead player at this point, but can be the #2 or #3 option on a super team quite well, depending on system fit.

The Knicks should be expecting draft picks along with any undesirable contracts if those are indeed included.

With a new GM now in place, they will have to go through everything again to get everyone on the same page before any trade discussions resume.

But, they are only after him if they can do it without gutting their roster. Considering that they have to make the salaries match, that is very difficult to accomplish.
 

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Hard to say he has little to no trade value if both the Cavs and Rockets, both contenders, are after him.
These teams aren't exactly willing to give up the farm to get in on this Melo deal... rather, they are trying to dump bad contract(s) on the Knicks.

The Knicks are backing off because they can't get much decent in return... yes, this is probably a negotiating tactic... but the fact that the Knicks can't a broker a good deal is thrown into stark relief by the fact they have to resort to such gamesmanship.
 

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These teams aren't exactly willing to give up the farm to get in on this Melo deal... rather, they are trying to dump bad contract(s) on the Knicks.
The Knicks are backing off because they can't get much decent in return... yes, this is probably a negotiating tactic... but the fact that the Knicks can't a broker a good deal is thrown into stark relief by the fact they have to resort to such gamesmanship.

If I were Knicks -- I'd take Kevin Love for Melo. (if the Cavs would actually do it) It would make an interesting front court duo -- and give Frank a couple of solid guys to pass to. Love might not be the long-term answer -- but at least it would make the franchise interesting & relevant. Maybe Perry will do this.
 

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If I were Knicks -- I'd take Kevin Love for Melo. (if the Cavs would actually do it) It would make an interesting front court duo -- and give Frank a couple of solid guys to pass to. Love might not be the long-term answer -- but at least it would make the franchise interesting & relevant. Maybe Perry will do this.
Love > Ryan Anderson
 

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What a classy guy, picking on a 19 year old kid, what a fucking pussy lmao


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Love > Melo too

Melo would provide better shooting, similarly bad defense, and worse rebounding. He could potentially fit better in Cleveland than Love -- although Cleveland probably can't win with either of them.
 

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Melo would provide better shooting, similarly bad defense, and worse rebounding. He could potentially fit better in Cleveland than Love -- although Cleveland probably can't win with either of them.
Love shoots better from 3, and I just think he's the better player at this stage of their careers. As far as fit with Cleveland it's kind of irrelevant and you're right, swapping 1 for 1 doesn't beat the Warriors.
 

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Kings finally got cash considerations back on their team, the final piece needed to contend for a title. Be afraid Warriors, be very afraid.
 
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