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Series Thread: 2) Phoenix Suns vs 7) LA Lakers

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Gee, ya think? Thanks for the insight. Pippen had a great supporting cast and couldn't get it done without Jordan.

Pippen got hurt in 1998 and was never the same player after. He was legitimately a top 5 player in his prime. By the time he left Chicago he was on the downside of his career.

Of course he wasn’t going to carry a team to a title. Extremely foolish to expect otherwise and use that as your argument.
 

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Rick Barry

So this is your argument?

Since you came up with 1 player who won a title without a great cast over the entire history of the NBA, Pippen was overrated because failed to win after leaving Chicago at age 33?

That is absolutely amazing. Worse than a Dorian argument.
 

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No player in history ever won without a great supporting cast?

Michael Jordan is that one player . He alone brought out the best in his teammates.

Bill Wennington, would not have been the best male cheerleader in the league if not for MJ.
 
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So this is your argument?

Since you came up with 1 player who won a title without a great cast over the entire history of the NBA, Pippen was overrated because failed to win after leaving Chicago at age 33?

That is absolutely amazing. Worse than a Dorian argument.

Even that doesn't really work That team also had Clifford Ray and Bill Bridges who were very good players and Jamaal Wilkes who was a rookie, but who was good enough to win Rookie of the Year and 1st team All-Rookie.
 

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Pippen got hurt in 1998 and was never the same player after. He was legitimately a top 5 player in his prime. By the time he left Chicago he was on the downside of his career.

Of course he wasn’t going to carry a team to a title. Extremely foolish to expect otherwise and use that as your argument.
Fair enough
 

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So this is your argument?

Since you came up with 1 player who won a title without a great cast over the entire history of the NBA, Pippen was overrated because failed to win after leaving Chicago at age 33?

That is absolutely amazing. Worse than a Dorian argument.
There were more suggestions from others but, yes, Barry was the classic example
 

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Alright then, let's just say hypothetically the tables were turned and you guys had been able to overtake for the league lead this year with #18... You know how many "haters" will have changed their minds about your team???

Hope you like round numbers, because the answer is ZERO.

There's only one place your 2020 banner rightfully belongs, and that is in the offices of Klutch Sports Group. Early in the pandemic when I had more time on my hands, I posted in my blog that anyone that roots for the present day Lakers is s shameless frontrunner, and I stand by that claim as long as MeBron and his self-serving, manipulative ways is still in the NBA.

If Lakers fans are frontrunners, what do you call fans of multiple teams? Polygamists? Philanderers? Whores?

Been a Lakers fan for 40ish years because of Magic Johnson and company. I don't care how you have to frame things to make you feel better about your team(s).
 

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Gee, ya think? Thanks for the insight. Pippen had a great supporting cast and couldn't get it done without Jordan.

You're not even an NBA fan. Why don't you be like a cicada and go away for 17 years? You racist with internet access.
 

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Hakeem

Walton in '77 maybe?

Hakeem had a good supporting cast. If he didn't the Rockets wouldn't have won back to back titles. But don't forget about George Mikan and the '49 Lakers. :heh:
 
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You're not even an NBA fan. Why don't you be like a cicada and go away for 17 years? You racist with internet access.
Uh oh, an internet tough guy. I better hide.
 

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Hakeem had a good supporting cast. If he didn't the Rockets wouldn't have won back to back titles. But don't forget about George Mikan and the '49 Lakers. :heh:
Every title has a "good" supporting cast. What he didn't have was another big time star.
 

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Every title has a "good" supporting cast. What he didn't have was another big time star.

Don't disagree. But I never said anything about Hakeem having a super star next to him. Because he didn't.
 

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Uh oh, an internet tough guy. I better hide.

Who's acting like "tough guy"? You bring nothing to the NBA threads. You never talk about any of the current topics. You just stop by to ridicule black players. Then you try to act surprised when you get called out for your nonstop racism.
 
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