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Series Thread: 1st round 2) Knicks vs 7) Sixers

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Philly should have a lot of flexibility....not much on the books beside Embiid and Maxey......they need more obviously--- if they do not get a true 2- they at least need a guy that is a good 3.
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Scot Foster let me down!
 

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Philly should have a lot of flexibility....not much on the books beside Embiid and Maxey......they need more obviously--- if they do not get a true 2- they at least need a guy that is a good 3.
They have a true number 2 in Maxey. You’re clinging tightly to wrong.
 

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Bryan Colangelo is responsible for three of the worst #1 overall picks in NBA history​



2006 - Andrea Bargnani -- A big man that couldn't defend or pass. He scored points, but in terribly inefficient ways. Never made an all-star or All NBA team. Never made it past the first round of the playoffs. Out of the league at Age 31.
2016 - Ben Simmons -- Had a terrific start to his career with a Rookie of the Year award and three consecutive All-Star appearences from 2019-2021. Was first team All-Defensive in 19-20, and 20-21. Was All NBA in 19-20. He definitely had tangible success in the first three years of his career that would be a level of output you'd expect from a #1 pick. However -- the second he got extended, his decline is clear. Never expanded his game offensively, deteriorated defensively, had an all-time infamous playoff meltdown, and for all practical purposes, has been a complete non-presence in the league for the last three seasons. He's effectively been cooked since Age 24 and there's a very good chance he'll be out of the league when his contract expires.
2017 - Markelle Fultz -- Colangelo actually traded up to get him over the likes of Tatum and Fox (along with Josh Jackson and Lonzo Ball, both of whom haven't had great careers). Infamously forgot how to shoot between Summer League and Training Camp. Has been injured for a majority of his career. When he's played, he's seemed to have remade himself into a servicable defender/distributor coming off the bench for a meh Magic team, so he may be able to stick as a backup PG, but never solved the shooting problem, and it's pretty safe to say will never approach the level expected of a #1 overall pick. It also wouldn't be completely shocking if he was out of the league at the end of his contract as well (although I expect he'll stick).
 

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Can't help but wonder if the stench of losing (when it counts, in the playoffs) is now stuck to this '76ers team (Embiid's team).

There are reasons every year... injuries, etc.

But maybe it has been too many years in a row at this point...

If the Celtics flame out before a NBA title this year... that's gonna be the discussion for them as well.
 

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There is a new free throw merchant king! He’s so good at it too, you have to respect it. He’s so crafty. I fucking hate seeing these Nova guys prosper on the Knicks.
 

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Nurse had a few head scratching decisions last night

Waiting until the 4th to get Buddy back in even though he was the 2nd best player last night

Bringing back Harris for Buddy late in the 4th

Both horrible decisions
 

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Bryan Colangelo is responsible for three of the worst #1 overall picks in NBA history​



2006 - Andrea Bargnani -- A big man that couldn't defend or pass. He scored points, but in terribly inefficient ways. Never made an all-star or All NBA team. Never made it past the first round of the playoffs. Out of the league at Age 31.
2016 - Ben Simmons -- Had a terrific start to his career with a Rookie of the Year award and three consecutive All-Star appearences from 2019-2021. Was first team All-Defensive in 19-20, and 20-21. Was All NBA in 19-20. He definitely had tangible success in the first three years of his career that would be a level of output you'd expect from a #1 pick. However -- the second he got extended, his decline is clear. Never expanded his game offensively, deteriorated defensively, had an all-time infamous playoff meltdown, and for all practical purposes, has been a complete non-presence in the league for the last three seasons. He's effectively been cooked since Age 24 and there's a very good chance he'll be out of the league when his contract expires.
2017 - Markelle Fultz -- Colangelo actually traded up to get him over the likes of Tatum and Fox (along with Josh Jackson and Lonzo Ball, both of whom haven't had great careers). Infamously forgot how to shoot between Summer League and Training Camp. Has been injured for a majority of his career. When he's played, he's seemed to have remade himself into a servicable defender/distributor coming off the bench for a meh Magic team, so he may be able to stick as a backup PG, but never solved the shooting problem, and it's pretty safe to say will never approach the level expected of a #1 overall pick. It also wouldn't be completely shocking if he was out of the league at the end of his contract as well (although I expect he'll stick).
You cannot include Simmons.

He was very good his first few seasons and nobody could have predicted his meltdown and injuries resulting in him being traded to the Nets.
 

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Bryan Colangelo is responsible for three of the worst #1 overall picks in NBA history​



2006 - Andrea Bargnani -- A big man that couldn't defend or pass. He scored points, but in terribly inefficient ways. Never made an all-star or All NBA team. Never made it past the first round of the playoffs. Out of the league at Age 31.
2016 - Ben Simmons -- Had a terrific start to his career with a Rookie of the Year award and three consecutive All-Star appearences from 2019-2021. Was first team All-Defensive in 19-20, and 20-21. Was All NBA in 19-20. He definitely had tangible success in the first three years of his career that would be a level of output you'd expect from a #1 pick. However -- the second he got extended, his decline is clear. Never expanded his game offensively, deteriorated defensively, had an all-time infamous playoff meltdown, and for all practical purposes, has been a complete non-presence in the league for the last three seasons. He's effectively been cooked since Age 24 and there's a very good chance he'll be out of the league when his contract expires.
2017 - Markelle Fultz -- Colangelo actually traded up to get him over the likes of Tatum and Fox (along with Josh Jackson and Lonzo Ball, both of whom haven't had great careers). Infamously forgot how to shoot between Summer League and Training Camp. Has been injured for a majority of his career. When he's played, he's seemed to have remade himself into a servicable defender/distributor coming off the bench for a meh Magic team, so he may be able to stick as a backup PG, but never solved the shooting problem, and it's pretty safe to say will never approach the level expected of a #1 overall pick. It also wouldn't be completely shocking if he was out of the league at the end of his contract as well (although I expect he'll stick).

Fultz didn't forget how to shoot he had a very real and career threatening injury.

And there are way worse busts than Simmons. And I'm hardly a fan of his
 

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Earlier this season, Bryan Colangelo compared Embiid unfavorably to the Knicks’ Kristaps Porzingis.

“I am a Philly fan, but I'd trade The process for The Unicorn in a heart bit,” Bryan Colangelo wrote. “Such a smarter player.”

And, in response to a Sixers Nation post about Embiid committing a foul, Bryan Colangelo replied: “I am sure it is hard for him ‘to process’ the fact, that this is now Ben’s team. So he is acting up. This ego foul is costing us big!”


That's a stupid family that doesn't know basketball.
 

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You cannot include Simmons.

He was very good his first few seasons and nobody could have predicted his meltdown and injuries resulting in him being traded to the Nets.
Yup, he's included. He was a losing bitch at LSU too.
 
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