Series Thread: 2) Phoenix Suns vs 7) LA Lakers

[shopson67]

I am not talking about game 5, I am talking about every game since he got hurt.

How about game 4? Do these look like an injured player to you?

 

[shopson67]

The better question is how many times did he have a championship caliber roster in the West? We can't criticize players for not making the finals if they don't play with a championship caliber roster. He probably never had a championship caliber roster. The Houston teams he played on was good but it wasn't championship caliber when you looked at their competition in the West which was the Warriors

Clippers?

 

[bksballer89]

Clippers?

no

 

[shopson67]

Maybe it was just nonsense talk but LeBron himself has said that he doesn’t know if he’ll be the same after this high ankle situation.

...and later said he can get to 99.9%.

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[bksballer89]

A team with DeAndre Jordan as your 3rd best player isn't championship caliber. Blake was their best player and he was never a superstar.

 

[Wamu]

It's clearly ridiculing an opponent's injury coming from an ex-Sun. Was Shaq mocking CP3 for the same?

So in today's overly absurd PC culture it's now ridiculing in some way to say a player that's missed games throughout his career due to injury injury prone? Um, okay. I thought it was funny. Here's the irony. If this was about a Celtics player you wouldn't have an issue at all.

 

[shopson67]

no

If he elevates every roster he joins, why can't they get past the second round?

 

[shopson67]

So in today's overly absurd PC culture it's now ridiculing in some way to say a player that's missed games throughout his career due to injury injury prone? Um, okay. I thought it was funny. Here's the irony. If this was about a Celtics player you wouldn't have an issue at all.

I don't have an issue with it really anyway. It's just more Barkley stupidity. It's not about PC culture whatsoever. Chuck making jokes about any player's shortcomings in the playoffs is like the universe closing in on itself.

 

[bksballer89]

If he elevates every roster he joins, why can't they get past the second round?

Tell me how those Clippers teams were a championship caliber roster.....

The best team he played on was that Rockets team and they ended up 1 win away from the finals but I'm sure you'll find a way to blame CP for the shooters going ice cold in G7 vs the Warriors

 

[shopson67]

Tell me how those Clippers teams were a championship caliber roster.....

The best team he played on was that Rockets team and they ended up 1 win away from the CONFERENCE finals but I'm sure you'll find a way to blame CP for the shooters going ice cold in G7 vs the Warriors

FIFY

 

[DJ Fieri]

It's clearly ridiculing an opponent's injury coming from an ex-Sun.

Exactly.

 

[DJ Fieri]

How about game 4? Do these look like an injured player to you?

Yeah, I think he was just trying to get everybody involved in game 5. In game 6 James will be in full on domination mode, especially with AD hurt and Schroder and KC3 choking. I still expect him to try and get others involved but I expect him to be much more aggressive offensively.

 

[trojanfan12]

I trust Paul and his agent more than I trust you. He is still a top 5 PG in the league and can turn bad teams into good teams as he proved with OKC last year and the Suns this year. They know what the market is. If a team think he has 2 more good seasons like this then a 3 year deal is fine.

The great thing about CP3 is scoring is not what makes him great. What makes him great is how great he is at being a true PG

i have a hard time believing that a team will want to pay him 30 million per year at age 36. But you make a good point re: he and his agent knowing what he's likely to get. If he's willing to turn down $40 million, then it does seem likely that he and his agent have reason to believe that someone will give him that deal or close to it.

 

[bksballer89]

FIFY

You didn't fix anything. They were one win away from the NBA finals.

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[bksballer89]

i have a hard time believing that a team will want to pay him 30 million per year at age 36. But you make a good point re: he and his agent knowing what he's likely to get. If he's willing to turn down $40 million, then it does seem likely that he and his agent have reason to believe that someone will give him that deal or close to it.

Let's say even if it is 30M then that still a great move. Let's say he signs a 3 yr/90m or 4 yr/120M then it is a great deal. Most likely more than he would have gotten next summer had he opted in to his contract. To be it only looks bad if he settles for less than 30M yearly so let's see what he end up getting

 

[shopson67]

You didn't fix anything. They were one win away from the NBA finals.

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Yep, my error.

 

[tlance]

How about game 4? Do these look like an injured player to you?

Yes

Way to cherry pick a couple highlights.

He is getting very few buckets in the paint. He would be getting to the rim more if he was healthy.

 

[shopson67]

Yes

Way to cherry pick a couple highlights.

He is getting very few buckets in the paint. He would be getting to the rim more if he was healthy.

Sure, couldn't have anything to do with Drummond, AD, etc also in the paint, clogging things up.

You can't look much more healthy than having your head at the rim and sprinting back on defense.

 

[Wamu]

I don't have an issue with it really anyway. It's just more Barkley stupidity. It's not about PC culture whatsoever. Chuck making jokes about any player's shortcomings in the playoffs is like the universe closing in on itself.

You can't say you don't really have an issue with what Chuck said when you said this

It's clearly ridiculing an opponent's injury coming from an ex-Sun.

Now don't take this the wrong way, at the moment not looking to start anything. But you do get a little touchy about any jokes towards your team. You've gotten pissed at me in the past for shots I've taken at the Lakers.

And the ring thing. Chuck is without a doubt one of the greatest NBAers of all time. He averaged 20 & 10 for a 11 consecutive years. Which is insane considering he's 6-6. He has the right to say whatever he wants. He knows the game better than alotta people. But if you look at AD's entire career yes without a doubt he's had shortcomings.

-7 years in N.O.

-2 winning seasons

-2 playoff trips

-1 playoff win


That's not good.

 

[tlance]

Sure, couldn't have anything to do with Drummond, AD, etc also in the paint, clogging things up.

You can't look much more healthy than having your head at the rim and sprinting back on defense.

Yeah, Drummond is in the way too.

Have you every seen LeBron play this passively?

I haven’t. At least not since the Finals against the Mavs. And I have been watching him a long time.

You should HOPE he is playing injured. Because if he isn’t, we may have seen the last of King James as a dominant force. And the Lakers would need a lot more help to be contenders next year.