Why you should believe Brady is actually innocent

[jarntt]

It occurred in haters imaginations.....

 

[jarntt]

skills

-incredible texter
-comfortable using needles
-great interviewer

Areas to improve:
sloppy, talkative, spends too much time in bathroom...

 

[ATL96Steeler]

The judge didn't rule on his guilt or innocence, he ruled on whether the NFL has the authority to suspend him.

After looking at the docs, the judge initially said, hey guys you need to work this out or something to that effect...again me going on the common sense factor...he saw enough there to make an assumption of Brady's involvement, but he wasn't going to go there without tangible proof or an admittance...he tried to put it back into the NFL's court I assume to come up with a more reasonable penalty...there was no other reason I could see to send it back to the parties

Brady made it public he was willing to sit a game...when the NFL wouldn't budge...the judge had no choice but to over rule it.

 

[clemtheslowson]

Pats fans refuse to accept that this isn't criminal court.

It's fucking not, you idiot,

 

[jarntt]

It's fucking not, you idiot,

 

[cerealboi]

Correct. Gates and Brady both cheated.

Thanks for declaring me correct. However, the smart people just assume I'm correct to save time.

 

[jarntt]

Thanks for declaring me correct. However, the smart people just assume I'm correct to save time.

Correct...I mean...nothing...

 

[belcherboy]

Brady was never asked to hand his physical phone over. He was asked for the transcript of specific text messages.

I don't typically destroy my phone when getting a new one ( i still have a 7 year old flip phone) and I agree that this is suspect.

You might not destroy your phone when done with it, but I've seen several celebrities have their careers destroyed because of a text message or picture. I can understand why someone who is extremely popular and has to maintain a clean public image might destroy their phone when done with it.

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

Sorry I meant more that he was supposed to hand it to his lawyers for them to go through and pick what was pertinent to the case. It wasn't even handing it over to the investigators yet he still saw fit to destroy it. That to me is the most damning thing of why I think Brady is actually guilty in this case. Now I am one that doesn't think he deserved a 4-game suspension unless they found years of doing this and knowingly breaking the rules but for one game I think the fine would have been just fine.

But your narrative is incorrect. Brady's lawyers DID turn over all the records, as was clearly shown during the initial appeal hearing w/Goodell. Wells told Brady's attorneys that the phone would not be needed, and at that time the phone was destroyed. AFTER Wells said he would not need it.

So the most damning thing did not occur.

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

The judge didn't rule on his guilt or innocence, he ruled on whether the NFL has the authority to suspend him.

...and the fairness of the process.

Not making witnesses available, not making documents available, etc...
The "non-cooperative" party was the NFL, not the Brady side.

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

Pats fans refuse to accept that this isn't criminal court.

And Haters refuse to accept that this was a frame job.

HA!

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

I'm still waiting for the promised facts from the OP. I only read opinions and insults...

I posted this about a week ago... I think it applies here.

The NFL has zero proof that the balls were intentionally deflated, much less that there was any conspiracy to do so.
The NFL has launched a "get the Patriots" campaign (no doubt encouraged by the owners) since halftime "you guys are fucked!). Then they started the smear campaign of "11 of 12 balls were 2lbs or more underinflated" when in fact NONE of them were. But that cemented public opinion south of MA. They left that crap out there and still haven't corrected it. They ignored the fact that 3 of the 4 Colt balls were also under specs. They lied about Wells being independent. They ignored the official in charge of the balls testimony that would have explained the PSI's because it didn't fit the narrative they wanted. They tried to coerce confessions using false information, but got none. They lied about Brady's cooperation, or lack thereof. They lied about his refusal to turn over his phone (never asked for it) or the associated records (did turn over, check the Internet for all kinds of emails that were leaked). They lied about his destroying the phone (did so AFTER Wells told him it would not be needed)... and so on. They refused to let Brady's lawyers interview the guy who edited the report. They wanted the testimony sealed so none of their obvious bullshit would come to light.

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

Just from the standpoint of being the QB your gonna know if the football's have less air... But the center would know also... receivers would know also, so it's not just Brady who knew... that being said, destroying his cell phone was and eye opener, there was something on that phone he didn't want people too see... I don't think Brady is being totally truthful about not knowing anything, with how much that guy prepares and competes, if those football's were not to his liking he's gonna let someone know... Bottom line is though, were talking about slightly deflated football's ... from now on the football's should just be guarded and checked right before game-time... Problem solved...

Phone was destroyed AFTER all the records were turned over and Wells said he wouldn't need it. Hell, he never even asked for it.

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

I want to know why Robert Kraft gets away with firing these two family men when he's constantly spouting rhetoric about "class" and "integrity."

Well, if they are suspended during the investigation (as the league requested) then they are NOT eligible for unemployment since they are not unemployed. By letting them go they can file for benefits. So actually, firing them was better for them and their families finances then just suspending them.

Now that the dust has settled, the Pats are trying to hire them back.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Phone was destroyed AFTER all the records were turned over and Wells said he wouldn't need it. Hell, he never even asked for it.

Still, if there is evidence that can prove you weren't involved, you don't destroy it ... You just don't do it.. He's a very wealthy man, he can buy another cell phone without destroying the one he has, JUST encase...

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

Still, if there is evidence that can prove you weren't involved, you don't destroy it ... You just don't do it.. He's a very wealthy man, he can buy another cell phone without destroying the one he has, JUST encase...

There's no such thing as evidence that proves you weren't involved. This is especially true if there was nothing to be involved with!

He turned over all the records that were asked for, and once the investigator said he would not need the phone he destroyed it. Just like I have done with every smartphone, laptop and PC I have ever owned once I was finished with it.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

There's no such thing as evidence that proves you weren't involved.

He turned over all the records that were asked for, and once the investigator said he would not need the phone he destroyed it. Just like I have done with every smartphone, laptop and PC I have ever owned once I was finished with it.

Dude, and iPhone and some smart phones are worth hundreds of dollars, you wipe um clean and trade them in or sell them, you don't smash them under your feet!! lol common man!!! And absolutely evidence can exists to prove your not involved with something... If your convicted of a crime and have an alibi you can literally get wiped off as a suspect... If he showed his phone and there was no evidence of him texting back and forth with the ball boy's that a big PLUS for his case... Brady had something he was hiding... I mean it is possible he has some personal stuff he didn't want exposed that wasn't related, but he was hiding something...

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

Dude, and iPhone and some smart phones are worth hundreds of dollars, you wipe um clean and trade them in or sell them, you don't smash them under your feet!! lol common man!!! And absolutely evidence can exists to prove your not involved with something... If your convicted of a crime and have an alibi you can literally get wiped off as a suspect... If he showed his phone and there was no evidence of him texting back and forth with the ball boy's that a big PLUS for his case... Brady had something he was hiding... I mean it is possible he has some personal stuff he didn't want exposed that wasn't related, but he was hiding something...

 

[Fencer]

thats not true either

there were at least 4 occasions on camera where mcnally carried balls past officials who didnt even notice he was there.

Sorry. I completely missed that one; where was it? I relied on the Wells Report -- yeah that was silly of me -- which said McNally was always escorted to the field, with the single exception of the AFCC.

 

[Fencer]

heres one example:

“The report acknowledges that game officials specifically allowed Mr. McNally to take the game footballs from the dressing room of the Officials’ Locker Room (where the referee was) into the separate sitting room (pg. 55). No one told Mr. McNally that he could not then proceed to the field with the footballs. When the NFC Championship Game ended abruptly in overtime and Mr. McNally started from the back of the sitting room towards the door to the hallway, he walked by numerous League officials in the sitting room. “As the report states (pg. 55), the sitting room was crowded with ‘NFL personnel, game officials and others gathered there to watch the conclusion of the NFC Championship Game on television.’ Mr. McNally had to navigate this crowd of officials to make it through the sitting room with two large bags of footballs on his shoulders.

Read more at: Patriots: Jim McNally Didn't Stealthily Take Footballs From Locker Room

Right. The Wells Report said that all sorts of stuff happened on the day of the AFCC. It also, if I recall correctly, sad that nobody could remember similar stuff ever happening before, and that McNally at other games was always escorted to the field by security personnel.