Series Thread: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Finals Thread

[purguy12]

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I might be dead wrong, but I don't think you can do sign and trades if you are over the cap (which the Cavs are/were).

U can because both players will be about the same price and both would be sign and trades. They would match salaries.

 

[Retroram52]

Swaggy And Hill for Klay Thompson? In a heartbeat.

 

[trojanfan12]

U can because both players will be about the same price and both would be sign and trades. They would match salaries.

Yeah, that makes sense. If memory serves, part of Dan Gilbert's bitchfest over the CP3/Pau trade was that it gave the Lakers some luxury tax relief because Pau made a good bit more than CP3 at the time.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah it really is. Tag team Aldridge with Thompson and Moz wow. They should resign Della but let go of JR Smith.

Yeah, even though he ultimately showed why he isn't a starter, I thought Delly had a much more positive impact on the series than JR did.

 

[Retroram52]

Finally!! Something we can ALL agree on.

Yep, true.

 

[purguy12]

Yeah, even though he ultimately showed why he isn't a starter, I thought Delly had a much more positive impact on the series than JR did.

Yeah Della would be a good pack up. Cavs fans need to know they wont be able to sign everyone. some players will leave.

 

[purguy12]

So happy to change my Avatar.

 

[Retroram52]

Cleveland needs to improve their bench depth and Shumpert and Smith are not it.

 

[Hambombs]

Everytime smith shot I just said "we don't believe in that"

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Here's a summary of the new rules:

• Sign and trade contracts are reduced to a maximum of 4 years, with 4.5% percent raises. These are the years and raises used for non-bird players. In the past CBA, you could give the player maximum raises for maximum years if you had their bird rights, which would be 7.5% raises over 5 years in the current CBA.
• Teams more than $4 million above the luxury tax cannot receive players in a sign and trade deal. If a team acquires a player in a sign and trade deal, then the team cannot go $4 million or more above the luxury tax for the remainder of the salary cap year. There were previously no restrictions.

 

[Hambombs]

I was listening to LA sports radio today and almost everyone said it was ridiculous that Iguodala got the Finals MVP award. They compared it to giving the award to Robert Horry, Rick Fox, or Trevor Ariza. They agreed that Iggy played great but said it was Steph that clearly drives everything the Warriors do(which is pretty obvious). Iguodala was their MVP "among the supporting cast for the W's" but not the Finals MVP in their opinion. Definitely, a minor point of contention but interesting to hear their takes nonetheless.

 

[purguy12]

Here's a summary of the new rules:

• Sign and trade contracts are reduced to a maximum of 4 years, with 4.5% percent raises. These are the years and raises used for non-bird players. In the past CBA, you could give the player maximum raises for maximum years if you had their bird rights, which would be 7.5% raises over 5 years in the current CBA.
• Teams more than $4 million above the luxury tax cannot receive players in a sign and trade deal. If a team acquires a player in a sign and trade deal, then the team cannot go $4 million or more above the luxury tax for the remainder of the salary cap year. There were previously no restrictions.

Yes they wont be over because they are giving the same amount. Aldridge and Love both will get max money. basically both teams will sign their own players and then be traded for each other. No harm no foul.

 

[purguy12]

I was listening to LA sports radio today and almost everyone said it was ridiculous that Iguodala got the Finals MVP award. They compared it to giving the award to Robert Horry, Rick Fox, or Trevor Ariza. They agreed that Iggy played great but said it was Steph that clearly drives everything the Warriors do(which is pretty obvious). Iguodala was their MVP "among the supporting cast for the W's" but not the Finals MVP in their opinion. Definitely, a minor point of contention but interesting to hear their takes nonetheless.

Well the LA radio people aren't very smart. With out iggy u don't win. no one else would be able to defend LBJ. Plus Iggy gave you production from other places. He was by far the MVP. Curry had 1 good game maybe 2. If curry went off in game 6 then curry would of won it.

Iggy gave u the best D and 2nd best offense on your team. I think they just need something to talk about because I think most would say Iggy was by far the MVP. Everyone wants to talk about offense but people forgot about D. Look at last year and the job Leonard did against LBJ. He won MVP.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Yes they wont be over because they are giving the same amount. Aldridge and Love both will get max money. basically both teams will sign their own players and then be traded for each other. No harm no foul.

I'm confused then.
I'm reading it as :

A. If you are more then 4M over (current team salary), then you can't do it. Period.

Wouldn't part B only kick in if you can get past part A.?

 

[Hambombs]

Well the LA radio people aren't very smart. With out iggy u don't win. no one else would be able to defend LBJ. Plus Iggy gave you production from other places. He was by far the MVP. Curry had 1 good game maybe 2. If curry went off in game 6 then curry would of won it.

Iggy gave u the best D and 2nd best offense on your team. I think they just need something to talk about because I think most would say Iggy was by far the MVP. Everyone wants to talk about offense but people forgot about D. Look at last year and the job Leonard did against LBJ. He won MVP.

Warriors don't score 70 points without Steph IMO. Also they still beat them no matter what IMO. Love iggy doe

 

[Hambombs]

It's not all about offense doe I agree

 

[purguy12]

I'm confused then.
I'm reading it as :

A. If you are more then 4M over (current team salary), then you can't do it. Period.

Wouldn't part B only kick in if you can get past part A.?

I don't know, its a good question. it makes sense for the trade to happen because its not like either team will add money to their original cap hit. Its not like Cavs are trading a 1st rd pick and JR smith for Aldridge and take on way more money. to trade for Aldridge they will have to be with reach of his salary to make a trade work. Love would match Aldridge.

Anyone have any info on this?

 

[purguy12]

Warriors don't score 70 points without Steph IMO. Also they still beat them no matter what IMO. Love iggy doe

u are crazy man.

 

[Hambombs]

u are crazy man.

Same thing with lebron

 

[purguy12]

Same thing with lebron

Curry was not the MVP of that series. It was clear as hell. Don't get me wrong he is very important to GS but what Iggy did was awesome. Stats don't lie and his D and being 3-0 when he came into the starting lineup proves that. U do know he held LBJ shooting 22% in the series when he was guarding him. Overall LBJ shot 39% LBJ owned Barnes and Green.