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ESPN 980's Chris Russell On Redskins Safeties

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Chris Russell had some interesting things to say about Redskins safeties yesterday. According to him, Duke Ihenacho will be one starter, and if he stays healthy, he'll be a great safety for us. He also heaped praise on budding free safety Akeem Davis. While he's raw and can't play for extended lengths of time now, if he develops the way safeties should, he could be a franchise FS. He apparently runs a 4.35 40 and could be our future if he continues to learn. For the time being, however, it'll appear that Jeron Johnson will be our starting FS, subject to whether Barry decides to interchange them like Haslett did. Johnson played SS most of the time at Seattle, so let's hope he can hone his skills at FS to help our dire safety spot out.
 

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Chris Russell had some interesting things to say about Redskins safeties yesterday. According to him, Duke Ihenacho will be one starter, and if he stays healthy, he'll be a great safety for us. He also heaped praise on budding free safety Akeem Davis. While he's raw and can't play for extended lengths of time now, if he develops the way safeties should, he could be a franchise FS. He apparently runs a 4.35 40 and could be our future if he continues to learn. For the time being, however, it'll appear that Jeron Johnson will be our starting FS, subject to whether Barry decides to interchange them like Haslett did. Johnson played SS most of the time at Seattle, so let's hope he can hone his skills at FS to help our dire safety spot out.

I hope you are right on both. Especially Davis. Always been a fan.
 

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Nacho and Thomas have to be the favorites to start. Johnson will challenge in camp. I guess there will be a camp battle for the last safety spot between Davis and Robinson. That's five safeties why would we draft another one?
 

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Nacho and Thomas have to be the favorites to start. Johnson will challenge in camp. I guess there will be a camp battle for the last safety spot between Davis and Robinson. That's five safeties why would we draft another one?


Because we have 5 Strong safety players on roster and not a single Free safety. Just a thought mind you.
 

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Thomas can be a free. They said Nacho and Johnson can do both. Too many other needs to draft a safety in the first four rounds.
 

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Thomas can be a free. They said Nacho and Johnson can do both. Too many other needs to draft a safety in the first four rounds.


Too many other needs to draft a NT or a CB either. But truth is, Any and all of these positions in addition to RT, OG and even QB are all on the board for this team at the moment. You could even throw WR in there. The only things i think we can take off the board are RB, K, P and Te as possible first round picks for us.
 

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We are going to take Beasley in the first round shark barring a trade down. Im already thinking about 2nd and 3rd round guys. I would take the whole secondary and NT off the board when drafting. Erving would be a steal in the 2nd round. He does everything. I like Ayjai Rb from Boise in the 3rd. 3 down Rb who can catch and pass block.

1) Beasley
2) Erving
3) Ayjai

That is a great draft. If these guys are there when we pick and we pass on them, I will be pissed.
 

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Dean.... you simply cant bring yourself to admit the best thing for this team is to fix the O-line at this point can you?? I'll be pissed if we roll into the season with Chris Chester and Tom Compton starting on the O-line.
 

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Erving would start at RT if we get him in the draft. Shark, I think we are keeping Chester. If that is the case why would they draft another guard? Leuvo, Chester, and Long are already on the roster.
 

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If my mini mock pans out every position on this team would have good depth expect for ILB and TE. Think about that guys.
 

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I would rather get a true day one starter at RT and cuts Chester and also draft a true starter at RG in round two... but thats just me. I would be perfectly fine if we didnt have a single player on the defense on Sports center if our offense was actually solid for once in the last 15 years.
 

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If we were going to cut Chester wouldn't they have done it by now? There is no way we are addressing oline in round 1. The only way is if we get a trade down from the Browns or Chargers. My mini mock works.
 

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If we were going to cut Chester wouldn't they have done it by now? There is no way we are addressing oline in round 1. The only way is if we get a trade down from the Browns or Chargers. My mini mock works.


Your mini mock and keeping Chester puts us on the fast track to the Cardale Jones Lottery in 2016. But by all means, lets draft another OLB because its the more exciting pick basically.
 

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OLB is the BPA at #5. The team wants to keep Chester. I agree with you I don't know why they want to keep Chester but they do. So Shark you would take Scherff over Beasley? Is this what you are trying to tell me?
 

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OLB is the BPA at #5. The team wants to keep Chester. I agree with you I don't know why they want to keep Chester but they do. So Shark you would take Scherff over Beasley? Is this what you are trying to tell me?


In a fucking heart beat. Because bottom line is this year should be about one thing and one thing only. Figuring out if ANY of our QB's are worth moving forward with. Chester is a waste of time and resources at this point. Compton is at best a backup or a pressed into service starter. And as sexy as the Beasly pick would be, the last thing we need is another year of finishing just well enough that we need to trade up to draft a QB. And going into the season with those two stiffs backed up by long and the Red Sea Moses is just wasting another year.
 

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In a fucking heart beat. Because bottom line is this year should be about one thing and one thing only. Figuring out if ANY of our QB's are worth moving forward with. Chester is a waste of time and resources at this point. Compton is at best a backup or a pressed into service starter. And as sexy as the Beasly pick would be, the last thing we need is another year of finishing just well enough that we need to trade up to draft a QB. And going into the season with those two stiffs backed up by long and the Red Sea Moses is just wasting another year.

If we're stuck at #5, the only realistic choice we've got is OLB, which is the BPA that fits a need. I agree with Shark that our most pressing need is RT. Unfortunately, there's no one worth taking at #5. Scherff seems like the real deal, but his best projection is at guard, which would be way too high for our fifth overall selection and he wouldn't fit our need at RT. If we can't trade down, it's going to be one of either Randy Gregory, Shane Ray or Dante Fowler, the latter of which I'd like more than the other two. We then use our second rounder to draft the OT we need.

Beasley is also a workout warrior. We only take him or someone like a Bud Dupree if we trade down.
 

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If we're stuck at #5, the only realistic choice we've got is OLB, which is the BPA that fits a need. I agree with Shark that our most pressing need is RT. Unfortunately, there's no one worth taking at #5. Scherff seems like the real deal, but his best projection is at guard, which would be way too high for our fifth overall selection and he wouldn't fit our need at RT. If we can't trade down, it's going to be one of either Randy Gregory, Shane Ray or Dante Fowler, the latter of which I'd like more than the other two. We then use our second rounder to draft the OT we need.

Beasley is also a workout warrior. We only take him or someone like a Bud Dupree if we trade down.


1. We also need a starting RG, and thats assuming the Mel Kipers of the world are right and Schreff can only play guard.

2. Last time i checked the reason we DIDNT draft a RT last year in the 2nd to groom is because we took Murphy to be the fall back in case Rak left.

So now you are telling me Murphy was a mistake and we NEED a OLB?? Like I said I call Bullshit and Beasly would simply be the sexy high lights player pick. Because while we need depth at OLB, we need two starters on the O-line period. And like i said, if we take a defensive player at five, I better not hear ONE person from redskins park bitch about the O-line or on this board for that matter. Because we have a perfect opportunity to actually FIX the right side of the line, yet we are going after the high lights players on defense.
 

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1. We also need a starting RG, and thats assuming the Mel Kipers of the world are right and Schreff can only play guard.

That's correct. Scherff is a guard, not a tackle. Same with others like La'el Collins. While I agree that we need a RG, reaching for someone with such a high pick like we've got would be a collosal mistake.


2. Last time i checked the reason we DIDNT draft a RT last year in the 2nd to groom is because we took Murphy to be the fall back in case Rak left

So now you are telling me Murphy was a mistake and we NEED a OLB?? Like I said I call Bullshit and Beasly would simply be the sexy high lights player pick. Because while we need depth at OLB, we need two starters on the O-line period. And like i said, if we take a defensive player at five, I better not hear ONE person from redskins park bitch about the O-line or on this board for that matter. Because we have a perfect opportunity to actually FIX the right side of the line, yet we are going after the high lights players on defense.

Yes. It's time to admit that about Murphy, just like the Browns are doing with Manziel. When I say Murphy was a mistake, I mean that we screwed up taking him that high. I think he still has some value, but not as a second rounder. Want to know what's worse than drafting a bust with a high pick? Sticking with him because of the investment you made in him. (No Bob references, please.)

And who said anything about Beasley? I actually agree with your view about fixing the right side of our line. And that can be done with our second rounder. But we can't make a pick out of desperation if we're stuck at #5.
 

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Who says its a pick out of desperation.

Look we need both a RT and a RG. Most mocks have Schreff going in the top ten, Would you rather pay a little bit more for a guy that fixes a pressing need for likely the next 5-10 years... or be in the QB hunt next year because we listened to player value from two of the worst talking heads on the planet??
 

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Who says its a pick out of desperation.

Look we need both a RT and a RG. Most mocks have Schreff going in the top ten, Would you rather pay a little bit more for a guy that fixes a pressing need for likely the next 5-10 years... or be in the QB hunt next year because we listened to player value from two of the worst talking heads on the planet??

Because we can fill our RT need in the second round and get a frontline pass rushing OLB to pair up with Kerrigan. I'd much rather have that reaching for Scherff. If we take Scherff at #5 overall, that would be the highest pick used on a guard, if I'm not mistaken.

Having said that, if we did get Scherff at #5, it wouldn't be a colossal reach and getting a RT in the second round (e.g, Erving) would potentially fix that part of the line for a while.
 
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