Fox Is in: Official OC/DC hiring thread

[JoeyTourettes]

werent you the one raving about all these useless stats the cutler puts up? now the guy whos system he was running inneficienly is gonna get an efficient quarterback to run it and a defense to back it up.

Get over it already. Sorry he is the scapegoat for hurting your beloved cutler, but he proved the offense works, he just didnt have the right quarterback to run it until McCown played.[/QUOTE

Just so I got this straight- I root for Jay Cutler (the QB of the Chicago Bears, that's your team too btw) and defend him using his stats (like ANY fan who makes a case for his player would) This means I can't dislike a HC who completely imploded his own team and threw my guy under the bus? Had odd notions on how to be a HC and when his team wasn't producing in ANY aspect of the game- Defense/Offense/Special teams. I have to give him credit for when my guy did good things?

What do I need to get over? Jay Cutler? Is that it? Ohhh That's gotta be it. I just have to stop liking Jay. Then I'll be a part of the cool kids! Yes!

PLEASE explain HOW Trestman PROVED his offense worked in 2014? Why were so many fans pissed about play calls. Run/pass Ratio? odd starts and stops in 2:00 situations? (shhh**I bet I know your answer!!***)

Are you telling me that you would have kept Tresty and his entire staff and all the off field problems and decision making- And the Bears would be GOOD... IF it wasn't for Jay Cutler? You think that would work? If the Bears simply had a different QB? It's all Jay's fault right? gah.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

Adam Gase. How about that- The Bears interviewed 6 Head Coaching Candidates and 2 of them are now on the team. That's amazing. I'll take it. Go Bears!

 

[JoeyTourettes]

I think Pace is trying to look like a real general manager, but allowing Fox to say where and when. I think part of the deal with Pace flying out to denver was Fox seeing how high he can make the youngster jump. When he jumped, he knew he had his job and will just be sending Pace out to get the permissions to speak to each candidate and let fox handle the rest. Fox doesnt seem like the Emery type that wants to take the credit as being the puppetmaster. We will see if there is enough blame to go around eventually.

OH my GAWD!!! REACHING much? What the hell are you talking about? Where do you get this crap?
Why can't you just believe that Pace is a talented up and coming GM. Hired who he thought would be a good fit and right guy for the job. Who just happened to be the best HC Candidate on the available market. And then did what GOOD TEAMS do... Let his experienced HC hire his staff.
What the hell are you talking about? Really?
Pace & Fox have just built the best coaching staff of any of the new Coaching hires this year. Have we, as Bear fans, EVER been able to say that?

 

[wood20ks]

OH my GAWD!!! REACHING much? What the hell are you talking about? Where do you get this crap?
Why can't you just believe that Pace is a talented up and coming GM. Hired who he thought would be a good fit and right guy for the job. Who just happened to be the best HC Candidate on the available market. And then did what GOOD TEAMS do... Let his experienced HC hire his staff.
What the hell are you talking about? Really?
Pace & Fox have just built the best coaching staff of any of the new Coaching hires this year. Have we, as Bear fans, EVER been able to say that?

I believe in "only time can tell that"..........No one will know how good he is for a couple years down the road.......some of us have no crystal ball.


and the second bolded I have to agree..........it just maybe the best since the 80`s.

But like I said above.........only time will tell.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

wood- This is why I say this about Pace... and GM's.
Angelo: When it was his time to hire a HC... he swung and missed at his friend Nick Saban. Couldn't get the best candidates for the job and settled on Lovie. (I honestly can't remember who else was available then, but I do remember that Lovie Smith wasn't a "sure fire" guy. A good candidate who turned out to be a decent HC, but couldn't get out of his own way and couldn't get the offense right. Not a bad choice but given many chances and 8 OC/DC changes. A typical Bears hire.

Emery: Had a Top candidate in the building- a guy who just won Coach of the year in Arians. Instead he went to the odd ball route- an out of the box hire- somebody that NO other team was considering. Weird.

Pace: I'm not sure if Fox "fell into his lap" or if some whispers are true that this was "kinda known" behind the scenes that Fox would come available. Either way. He got him... He did the right thing- for right now. (there is no way to know if Quinn or Bowles are the next Greatest coach in NFL history- but odds are they aren't) He got a good solid HC. Something not done in 50+ years in Chicago. He got a guy with a really good reputation in the league- a guy with connections. That's why I call that talent.
If it was still Angelo or Emery making this hire- not sure I see this happen... either they bungle it somehow or second guess it... or more likely- Fox doesn't want to come here because of them.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Am I the only one who thinks Adam Gase is still unproven? The best part of his resume is offensive coordinator of the broncos. Not to discount the hire, but I have always said that Peyton Mannings OC has the easiest coaching job in the entire NFL. I won't condemn the hire because there really wasn't much quality left for the OC position, but I am also not going to drool over it. Going from Manning to Cutler is really one hell of a descent.

I cannot complain though because I think Fox and Fangio were great hires. All in all, only time will tell. Also, when do you think john fox will learn jay cutlers name? I thought it was funny that he kept calling him jake during his press conference.

 

[toooverbearing]

You know what's nice? A couple of months ago this team seemed like it was in a real shit storm. A couple of weeks ago there was a report that the Bears were one of the worst openings for gms and hcs according to a survey of nfl execs. The reality was a bit different in the eyes of those whom it mattered most to though. Ballard and Pace seemed only interested in the Bears turning down other teams. Fox was mission focused on landing here. Fangio turned down more money and two young proven pass rushers to be here. Those execs in that survey could pound sand. We've aced this thing so far.

 

[NCChiFan]

Am I the only one who thinks Adam Gase is still unproven? The best part of his resume is offensive coordinator of the broncos. Not to discount the hire, but I have always said that Peyton Mannings OC has the easiest coaching job in the entire NFL. I won't condemn the hire because there really wasn't much quality left for the OC position, but I am also not going to drool over it. Going from Manning to Cutler is really one hell of a descent.

I cannot complain though because I think Fox and Fangio were great hires. All in all, only time will tell. Also, when do you think john fox will learn jay cutlers name? I thought it was funny that he kept calling him jake during his press conference.

It is hard to know how proven or unproven he is mainly because Manning was doing what Manning wanted to do, but Gase did help. I think the other positive in his hire, other teams really wanted him. The fact he interviewed for several HC jobs and several OC jobs and had HC's calling him, asking him to stop by their facility before visiting the Bears (Fisher being one) says a lot.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

The whole group is unproven in their ability to work together. I think we are all mostly pleased for now but declaring things like "best in a long time" like an excited peeing puppy is way over-reacting. They haven't actually, you know, done anything yet.

We will get a pretty good look into them when free agency opens. For now...we wait.

 

[beardown07]

After the last two years, and most of the last decade, out of the playoffs, I will get as excited as I wish, thank you very much

 

[anotheridiot]

this is a really nice staff. this morning on the score, they were saying, its still players over system. I think thats bullshit. Its utilizing the players in the system. Its like they want the entire roster turned over again. There are plenty of people that can play 3-4. The ones we were worried about with Tillman and Briggs are gone anyway. I am really wanting to get that other shutdown corner early in the draft now. Shut down corners are gonna make any front better.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

Adding to the staff- This one is interesting:
Bears hire QB Coach- Dowell Loggains
In 2012 Lovie was thinking of bringing him in and the Titans wouldn't let him interview. Loggains was said to be interested in the Bears because he "has a strong, personal relationship with Jay Cutler" And Jay wanted him then too.
Is it just a simple good coaching hire? Or is it a nod to Jay? I'll take it- With Jay most likely staying for 2015...(no matter what you think of him- he's the best option out there now) and if Foxy, Gase, and now Loggains can get the same or better production and cut the turnovers in half or better next year you will really have something moving forward.
Balance- Play action- stronger running attack- move the pocket a little more. I'm all for it.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

well, I have to say I agree that it is a sign they would keep Cutler, because there is absolutely nothing else encouraging from his pedigree. Very disappointing on many levels. Well you can't win them all.

I'm also not too happy about the new linebacker coach we hired, Glenn Pires. He was there 6 years, and developed exactly zero good linebackers while he was there.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

ha... oh Cali- I'm starting to wonder what you would do if you ever thought anything was a good? lol. Let's see what happens. I'm of the opinion that just about any change from last year is going to be better. You never know. I'm optimistic.
Joey: Jay Cutler= Look at those TD's, yards and Comp. %!!!
Cali: Jay Cutler= Look at those INT's, Fumbles and poor body language!!!

Joey: Coaching Hires= Whoo Hooo-
Cali: Coaching Hires= Bah..he had Manning and didn't win!

Joey: Pretty Girl With Great Rack= Damn!!
Cali: Pretty Girl with Great Rack= Eh her teeth are kinda jacked!

LOL- Cheers bud... after last seasons pile of suckage...anything is better.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

ha... oh Cali- I'm starting to wonder what you would do if you ever thought anything was a good? lol. Let's see what happens. I'm of the opinion that just about any change from last year is going to be better. You never know. I'm optimistic.
Joey: Jay Cutler= Look at those TD's, yards and Comp. %!!!
Cali: Jay Cutler= Look at those INT's, Fumbles and poor body language!!!

Joey: Coaching Hires= Whoo Hooo-
Cali: Coaching Hires= Bah..he had Manning and didn't win!

Joey: Pretty Girl With Great Rack= Damn!!
Cali: Pretty Girl with Great Rack= Eh her teeth are kinda jacked!

LOL- Cheers bud... after last seasons pile of suckage...anything is better.

dude, what's your problem? Because I am not optimistic on every hire or thing the Bears do you think I piss on everything. Sorry dude, I exercise judgment. I have praised the Gase and Fangio hires. I haven't said much at all about Pace because frankly I don't know. I'm mildly unhappy with the Fox hire, but I acknowledged that at least he is a high floor guy so the team won't suck totally presumably, they will probably be solid. I think these two hires suck, and yes, Cutler should be gone.

Do you notice a trend here? I try to evaluate what is happening according to some judgment. Some of what they do is good, and some of it isn't. You on the other hand cheer like a little girl every time anything happens. I hope you turn out to be right, that would be nice, but in the meantime, don't pull your bullshit on me little boy, I'm not a blind cynic either. I'm using that organ some call the brain, others call the meatball, and others still can't see because they are licking the ice cream off their own faces.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

and for the record, no one on here has praised hot chicks on here more than me. A hell of a lot more than you have, my young teenage boy. You should try putting some posters of Cowboy cheerleaders up in your room instead of that Cutler montage you've got going.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

Hey- obviously you took that differently then I intended. I was trying to be funny. No ill will intended dude. just the way I see things. And have no problem with the way you see things, but want you to see some of the optimistic side too.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

all right fine, I'll try to believe in the 19-0 season next year too after enough of these.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

The whole group is unproven in their ability to work together. ......... They haven't actually, you know, done anything yet.

I have to call you on this on these 2 Cali. They mostly have worked together before and they have done stuff already. (were keeping our best player) We put together our first experienced staff in Bears history. I for one had no option that excited me. But it turned out very well, much better then I thought things would. As Bear fans we should be happy.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

The whole group is unproven in their ability to work together. ......... They haven't actually, you know, done anything yet.

I have to call you on this on these 2 Cali. They mostly have worked together before and they have done stuff already. (were keeping our best player) We put together our first experienced staff in Bears history. I for one had no option that excited me. But it turned out very well, much better then I thought things would. As Bear fans we should be happy.

can you refresh my memory on when Pace, Fox, Fangio, and Gase worked together? Not clear on when that happened.

Also, just out of curiosity, who do you think our best player is?