MLB trade deadline 2012

[Heathbar012]

Dempster to the Yanks is what I heard

Rangers Acquire Ryan Dempster: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

 

[gp956]

Dempster to the Yanks is what I heard

Dempster to the Rangers

LOL

It's the Rangers by a nose.

 

[SFGRTB]

Deadline past. I'm sure there are still a few deals that were done but not reported. For God sake I hope we got a reliever.

 

[gp956]

Good move by Demspter.

 

[gp956]

Deadline past. I'm sure there are still a few deals that were done but not reported. For God sake I hope we got a reliever.

There will be pitchers passing through waivers in the next month. This is where will see if the owners have set a rigid cap on the budget.

 

[ColinCoby]

I guess the Dodgers are confident they can pick up another pitcher in the next month.

And perhaps Sabean thinks he can pick up a bullpen arm on the cheap in a week or two.

Getting a bullpen arm was the one thing I was certain of a few weeks ago. Shows what I know.

 

[SFGRTB]

So, how about baseball out West? Fuck the East coast overrated baseball

 

[recon]

One major flaw about Pence is his fielding. He makes way to many errors.

But you guys are going to love him. He did wonders for us last year. Pence will be missed in Philly.

 

[ColinCoby]

Espn: "The Phillies are a mess!!"

Sign of things to come for the Doyers a year or two down the road?


Edit: what I'm getting at...

Doyers 2013 key contracts

Uribe 7 million

Kershaw 13 million

Hanley 15.5 million

Kemp: 22 million

Loney: 6 million

Billingsly: 11 million

Ellis: 5 million

Ethier: 13.5 million

Capuano: 6 million

Lilly: 13.5 million

 

[gp956]

One major flaw about Pence is his fielding. He makes way to many errors.

But you guys are going to love him. He did wonders for us last year. Pence will be missed in Philly.

Hope so!

I think Bochy might move him to LF - that might help.

 

[ColinCoby]

Shocker: Keith Law not thrilled with the Pence move. He does raise a good question about not resigning Beltran.

Pence is a marginal upgrade for the Giants over Gregor Blanco, adding more offense but at some cost on defense; AT&T Park also isn't the ideal spot for a hitter like Pence, whose power is above average but not the kind of huge power that will play even in a large stadium. He'll earn somewhere around $13-14 million in 2013 through arbitration. What boggles the mind is why the Giants allowed Carlos Beltran, a better if more injury-prone player who they gave up a top prospect for a year ago, to walk away last offseason only to have to trade for a replacement midyear. Did they not realize how lacking their offense would be?

 

[gp956]

Shocker: Keith Law not thrilled with the Pence move. He does raise a good question about not resigning Beltran.

Pence is a marginal upgrade for the Giants over Gregor Blanco, adding more offense but at some cost on defense; AT&T Park also isn't the ideal spot for a hitter like Pence, whose power is above average but not the kind of huge power that will play even in a large stadium. He'll earn somewhere around $13-14 million in 2013 through arbitration. What boggles the mind is why the Giants allowed Carlos Beltran, a better if more injury-prone player who they gave up a top prospect for a year ago, to walk away last offseason only to have to trade for a replacement midyear. Did they not realize how lacking their offense would be?

As I noted a few days ago, Law thought the Giants would have the worst offense in the NL, and they've actually been in the upper third. He's having trouble re-calibrating his brain.

As for Beltran, he's old and had a pretty big question mark attached to the amount of production you could get out of him. Plus, he wasn't going to sign with the Giants for less than a two year deal. Law is using hindsight to hand-wave away the risk adjustment the Giants could not ignore in real time.

Also, if it's Pagan who loses the majority of the playing time, then Pence is a big upgrade. And finally, Law had Melky pegged as a fourth outfielder. This is why he isn't working in MLB any longer.

 

[CameronFrye]

Shocker: Keith Law not thrilled with the Pence move. He does raise a good question about not resigning Beltran.

Pence is a marginal upgrade for the Giants over Gregor Blanco, adding more offense but at some cost on defense; AT&T Park also isn't the ideal spot for a hitter like Pence, whose power is above average but not the kind of huge power that will play even in a large stadium. He'll earn somewhere around $13-14 million in 2013 through arbitration. What boggles the mind is why the Giants allowed Carlos Beltran, a better if more injury-prone player who they gave up a top prospect for a year ago, to walk away last offseason only to have to trade for a replacement midyear. Did they not realize how lacking their offense would be?

What a douche. I know that Pence isn't exactly Ryan Braun or Jose Bautista, but calling him a marginal upgrade over Blanco is just downright ignorance and serves only to show his complete bias.

I repeat: what a douche.

 

[CameronFrye]

Looks like the Rockies did not trade Betancourt, so we can stop hoping for one of those late reports. Also, the Cubs got 3B Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks (two Class-A prospects) for Dumpster

 

[msgkings322]

As I noted a few days ago, Law thought the Giants would have the worst offense in the NL, and they've actually been in the upper third. He's having trouble re-calibrating his brain.

As for Beltran, he's old and had a pretty big question mark attached to the amount of production you could get out of him. Plus, he wasn't going to sign with the Giants for less than a two year deal. Law is using hindsight to hand-wave away the risk adjustment the Giants could not ignore in real time.

Also, if it's Pagan who loses the majority of the playing time, then Pence is a big upgrade. And finally, Law had Melky pegged as a fourth outfielder. This is why he isn't working in MLB any longer.

Law has ALWAYS been a Giants hater. And LOL at the bolded.

 

[mistgl]

Looks like the Rockies did not trade Betancourt, so we can stop hoping for one of those late reports. Also, the Cubs got 3B Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks (two Class-A prospects) for Dumpster

Looks like Sabes is going to bet on the waiver wire trades when more teams are out of it and prices are not so high.

The Cards traded a top 100 prospect for a Marlins RP, and a non closer at that. So i'm inclined to think prices were steep on anyone of actual value.

 

[SFAnthem]

The Dodgers have picked up:

Two bullpen arms
Two starting position players

And are likely to get one #1 starter.

Totally different team now. The real season starts today - throw everything that has occurred in the last three months out the window.

My sentiments exactly. A two month race to the finish.

 

[SFAnthem]

The Phillies officially announced they've traded Pence and cash considerations to the Giants for Joseph, Schierholtz, and Rosin.

Nate love aside, thats not a bad deal considering they're giving us money too. Brown is still a Giant, and I think a Choo deal would have involved him. The Indians already have one high ceiling 1B not doing his job

Nice. How much cash could make this an even better deal.

Nate simply wasn't more than a streaky bench player and ToJo was groomed for trade bait since the minor all star game.

Pence and Melky on the corners is pretty good.

One thing about Choo. He is a Boras' client. It would probably be Choo or Melky on who to keep.

 

[mistgl]

Nice. How much cash could make this an even better deal.

Nate simply wasn't more than a streaky bench player and ToJo was groomed for trade bait since the minor all star game.

Pence and Melky on the corners is pretty good.

One thing about Choo. He is a Boras' client. It would probably be Choo or Melky on who to keep.

Melkamn, hands down. Will be a FA at 28 vs 31, on a 5 year deal that's about two more years of 'prime' vs two years of 'twilight'

 

[jingo]

When pablo comes back what is the lineup?

Pagan
Theriot
Melky
Posey
Pence
Panda
Belt
Scutoro
Pitcher

CF - Paganco (whomever is hot, I mean warm, I mean first one in uniform)
2B - Theriot / Scutaro (spot relief)
LF - Melky
C - Posey
RF - Pence
3B - Panda
SS - Scutaro (mostly)
1B - Belt (or someone/anyone that can hit above .260)
P

When Scutaro is at 2B or not starting the game, then
1B - Belt (see above)
SS - Crawford (see Belt and minus .010)
P

Batting Pence in the 5th spot (protecting Posey) may tell Pence how vital he is to the Giants (could help with future negotiations).

Or not.