NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[bksballer89]

 

[thunderc]

Yeah the league wants the better teams

 

[jarntt]

Happened to be driving and had the radio on after the game was over. It was stated that the foul that was called a flagrant on Clark would always be a common foul on anyone else. The butthurt bitches in the league are ridiculous, Clark is the sole reason they aren’t flying commercial anymore.

 

[shopson67]

They will find a way to ban it. The Eagles got too good at short conversions and it’s become a cheat code. When it’s banned it will purely be a case of a rule being changed because a team got too good at something and only the rule book adaptation can stop the play.

The ban will mean nothing to the Eagles. Power QB sneaks will still be a thing, you just won't have a player pushing Hurts in the back (which I don't think amounts to much and is arguably dangerous). Any injury risk by linemen going low is a completely separate concern and won't be alleviated by banning the tush push. I don't think the rule change request is specific enough as to what they want changed, so it may not pass.

As always, my bigger issue is linemen being allowed to push a ball carrier beyond the line of scrimmage for additional yardage, but the rule change doesn't separate the two.

 

[shopson67]

Flagrant and intentional really need to be 2 distinct things. Ridiculous call.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah the league wants the better teams

Same teams will still qualify. It's still on the "better teams" to win their playoff games.

This league speaks out of both sides of their mouth whenever it serves them. They want parity, but if one of our assumed best teams doesn't win their division, let's change the rules to help them out.

In last year's example, does anyone really think the Vikings were one of the best teams just because of their record? They couldn't beat the Lions or Rams. How far were they really going to go?

 

[fightinfunbags]

The ban will mean nothing to the Eagles. Power QB sneaks will still be a thing, you just won't have a player pushing Hurts in the back (which I don't think amounts to much and is arguably dangerous). Any injury risk by linemen going low is a completely separate concern and won't be alleviated by banning the tush push. I don't think the rule change request is specific enough as to what they want changed, so it may not pass.

As always, my bigger issue is linemen being allowed to push a ball carrier beyond the line of scrimmage for additional yardage, but the rule change doesn't separate the two.

I think you get your wish. The new proposal will be language that will be employed all over the field saying that a player can’t push a teammate to advance forward progress. That covers your desire AND the Tush Push.

 

[shopson67]

I think you get your wish. The new proposal will be language that will be employed all over the field saying that a player can’t push a teammate to advance forward progress. That covers your desire AND the Tush Push.

That's better, but the health concerns for defenders really doesn't fit this tush push band agenda. There already are rules against essentially diving at the defenders' knees for blocking leverage.

 

[thunderc]

That's better, but the health concerns for defenders really doesn't fit this tush push band agenda. There already are rules against essentially diving at the defenders' knees for blocking leverage.

I’m not listening to anything about safety, it’s just stuff they say without meaning it. I’ll listen when they quit letting guys take full windups trying to punch the ball out.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I’m not listening to anything about safety, it’s just stuff they say without meaning it. I’ll listen when they quit letting guys take full windups trying to punch the ball out.

Data shows that’s not a dangerous play that causes injury. It’s just a personal pet peeve of yours.

 

[thunderc]

Data shows that’s not a dangerous play that causes injury. It’s just a personal pet peeve of yours.

Just noticing it’s getting more and more prevalent. I don’t think even in pads you should be allowed to take a swing at another player. Let a qb get a rib broken and then it will be addressed.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Just noticing it’s getting more and more prevalent. I don’t think even in pads you should be allowed to take a swing at another player. Let a qb get a rib broken and then it will be addressed.

It’s not taking a swing at a player. It’s a legal technique that’s taught to dislodge the football from a ball carrier. It helps separate great defenses from good defenses. Turnover margin is the most important metric in determining winning or losing.

 

[Think McFly Think]

Turnover margin is the most important metric in determining winning or losing.

Are points a metric?

 

[fightinfunbags]

Are points a metric?

Haha touché.

Outside of points scored, the football metric that correlates most to winning is turnover margin.

 

[thunderc]

It’s not taking a swing at a player. It’s a legal technique that’s taught to dislodge the football from a ball carrier. It helps separate great defenses from good defenses. Turnover margin is the most important metric in determining winning or losing.

It’s taking a swing, you can’t tell me guys dont miss. You are right, I personally do not like it, but it’s the windups that I’m starting to see that I don’t like.

 

[fightinfunbags]

It’s taking a swing, you can’t tell me guys dont miss. You are right, I personally do not like it, but it’s the windups that I’m starting to see that I don’t like.

Guys do miss. It’s a physical game. The wind up comes from a need to create force.

 

[shopson67]

Data shows that’s not a dangerous play that causes injury. It’s just a personal pet peeve of yours.

You could say the same about swinging at the head of a guy wearing a helmet. It's still a penalty. Most cases the punch out isn't a penalty, but the guys that punch over and over with no concern as to accuracy deserve a personal foul.

 

[thunderc]

You could say the same about swinging at the head of a guy wearing a helmet. It's still a penalty. Most cases the punch out isn't a penalty, but the guys that punch over and over with no concern as to accuracy deserve a personal foul.

Yeah I was just pointing out a trend I am seeing. The problem is it’s being taught at the lower levels as well. Maybe I’m wrong, it just seems a bit nuts to me at times.

 

[fightinfunbags]

You could say the same about swinging at the head of a guy wearing a helmet. It's still a penalty. Most cases the punch out isn't a penalty, but the guys that punch over and over with no concern as to accuracy deserve a personal foul.

Disagree. It won’t be administered fairly from one crew to the next. They’ll effectively legislate the play out of the game.

 

[eaglesnut]

Flagrant and intentional really need to be 2 distinct things. Ridiculous call.

And she flopped. Weak bitch.