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Southieinnc

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The defense sucked against elite QBs with above average WRs in 2022. They were very good against average or below.

2023 is going to be a brutal year for this defense.

I agree that ST is a need, but ST is not going to slow down or stop a highly mobile offense or score against a staunch defense. The Patriots NEED a shut down CB and a #! WR. Having the best Special Teams does not win football games.
Having bad special teams will lose games!
 

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if last year didnt prove that i dont know what will
If you don't have an offense to score points, the games are lost before you start.

The Patriots lost one game and everyone blames it on ST because of two TDs on KO returns.

Josh Allen threw 3 TDs as did Mac Jones, except Jones also threw 3 INTs.

Final score was 35-23. If Hynes had been stopped at the 30 on both TD runs, would the Patriots have prevented JA from throwing 2 more ZTDs or stopped the Bills from kicking 2 FGs?

The ST was terrible, but Mac also gave up the ball three times.

Mac was equally as bad as the ST.
 

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Jesus…. Listening to @BigKen talk must be exactly what it’s like for @Southieinnc dealing with his mother in law. Where ever you do decide to take her, see if they have room for him too.

I know you have me on ignore because you’re a big pussy. But who the fuck should the Patriots be signing!?!?! Who????? What free agent is out there that is going to turn this team around??? None you big dope!!
 

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Jesus…. Listening to @BigKen talk must be exactly what it’s like for @Southieinnc dealing with his mother in law. Where ever you do decide to take her, see if they have room for him too.

I know you have me on ignore because you’re a big pussy. But who the fuck should the Patriots be signing!?!?! Who????? What free agent is out there that is going to turn this team around??? None you big dope!!
Can you imagine him as a GM?????
 

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If you don't have an offense to score points, the games are lost before you start.
Seriously? What if the game ended in a 0-0 tie?

"Davis' absence, as McCourty notes above, was a huge setback for New England's special teams. This unit struggled quite a bit in 2022, especially during a Week 17 loss to the Bills that saw Buffalo return two kicks for touchdowns.

In addition to Davis' return, the Patriots have also re-signed special teams veterans Matthew Slater and Joe Cardona this offseason, as well as Detroit Lions special teams ace Chris Board earlier this week.

These moves should help the Patriots make considerable improvement on special teams in the 2023 NFL season."
 

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The defense sucked against elite QBs with above average WRs in 2022. They were very good against average or below.

2023 is going to be a brutal year for this defense.

I agree that ST is a need, but ST is not going to slow down or stop a highly mobile offense or score against a staunch defense. The Patriots NEED a shut down CB and a #! WR. Having the best Special Teams does not win football games.
I beg to differ.
The defense kept us in games when the offense was atrocious.

And if ST plays great and Defense plays great, yes, that can win games.
 

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wow im 80 damn im old
Do some research and the last 0-0 tie in the NFL was 80 years ago.

That was before anyone ran a 4 minute mile or
anyone broke 10 seconds in the 100 yard dash or
before commercial aircraft had jet engines or
before the transistor radio and
there was no such thing as television.

Sorry, my math was off...................it was 1942, during the second world war.
 

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Do some research and the last 0-0 tie in the NFL was 80 years ago.

That was before anyone ran a 4 minute mile or
anyone broke 10 seconds in the 100 yard dash or
before commercial aircraft had jet engines or
before the transistor radio and
there was no such thing as television.

Sorry, my math was off...................it was 1942, during the second world war.
So is your history. The television was invented in the late 1920's.
 

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So is your history. The television was invented in the late 1920's.
Television became available in crude experimental forms in the late 1920s, but only after several years of further development was the new technology marketed to consumers. After World War II, an improved form of black-and-white television broadcasting became popular in the United Kingdom and the United States, and television sets became commonplace in homes, businesses, and institutions.

Sure, invented in the 20's. The vast majority of people never saw one until the late 40's.
 

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Sure, invented in the 20's. The vast majority of people never saw one until the late 40's.
My father bought a brand new giant wooden box in 1956. For more than a year, we had neighbors sitting in our living room watching Milton Berle, Ed Sullivan, Steve Allen and Red Skelton. The television wasn't a household item until the late 1950's.
 

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My father bought a brand new giant wooden box in 1956. For more than a year, we had neighbors sitting in our living room watching Milton Berle, Ed Sullivan, Steve Allen and Red Skelton. The television wasn't a household item until the late 1950's.
Shit, my parents refused to have a color television until the 90's.

I moved out in the mid eighties (yes, I am younger than you) and a big GE color console TV was the first thing I bought.

OK...the waterbed was first, the TV was second.

Damn. I miss that waterbed.
 

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Television became available in crude experimental forms in the late 1920s, but only after several years of further development was the new technology marketed to consumers. After World War II, an improved form of black-and-white television broadcasting became popular in the United Kingdom and the United States, and television sets became commonplace in homes, businesses, and institutions.

Sure, invented in the 20's. The vast majority of people never saw one until the late 40's.
The original statement was "there was no such thing as television." There was such a thing and many new of it despite not being commercially available for several reasons, the first of which was the expense of a television station especially since radio was still in it's infancy and did not need a visual upgrade yet.
 

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I moved out in the mid eighties (yes, I am younger than you) and a big GE color console TV was the first thing I bought.
Remember when TVs were not HD??

HD Televisions became available in 2004.

I bought a Sony HD 43" in 2005. It weighed 320 lbs.

I had to have comcast come over and install an HD receiver. I remember it like it was yesterday. They came on Thursday February 4, 2005.

On Friday February 5, 2005, got into a pissin' contest with my new miserable bitch of a boss. I hung up the phone and fell on my face. I had a hell of a time getting up and walking. I called my wife and she couldn't understand a word I was saying. I was having a stroke. Fortunately the hospital was only 7/10 of a mile from the house.

By 6:30 that night I had everything back working. The doc said he wanted me to stay in the hospital for the weekend for some tests. I asked him if all of the tests he wanted to do could be done over the weekend. He said, no, but he wanted me to be under observation. I told him that I had a brand new 43" HD Sony and that the Patriots were playing the Eagles in the Superbowl on Sunday and that there was no way in hell that I was going to watch that game on a dinky hospital TV. He asked me if he could come over and observe me during the game.


I laid on a waterbed once. Wife wouldn't let me buy one.
 

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The original statement was "there was no such thing as television." There was such a thing and many new of it despite not being commercially available for several reasons, the first of which was the expense of a television station especially since radio was still in it's infancy and did not need a visual upgrade yet.
Yes, we know.
You love to over anal eyes and split hairs as fine as they will go.
 

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Remember when TVs were not HD??

HD Televisions became available in 2004.

I bought a Sony HD 43" in 2005. It weighed 320 lbs.

I had to have comcast come over and install an HD receiver. I remember it like it was yesterday. They came on Thursday February 4, 2005.

On Friday February 5, 2005, got into a pissin' contest with my new miserable bitch of a boss. I hung up the phone and fell on my face. I had a hell of a time getting up and walking. I called my wife and she couldn't understand a word I was saying. I was having a stroke. Fortunately the hospital was only 7/10 of a mile from the house.

By 6:30 that night I had everything back working. The doc said he wanted me to stay in the hospital for the weekend for some tests. I asked him if all of the tests he wanted to do could be done over the weekend. He said, no, but he wanted me to be under observation. I told him that I had a brand new 43" HD Sony and that the Patriots were playing the Eagles in the Superbowl on Sunday and that there was no way in hell that I was going to watch that game on a dinky hospital TV. He asked me if he could come over and observe me during the game.


I laid on a waterbed once. Wife wouldn't let me buy one.
I would have stroked out at the cost of an HD TV back in 05 as well...
 
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