Dolphins losing draft picks because of tampering

[Southieinnc]

Sorry buying a date dinner hopping to get laid is a date, paying a prostitute cash for a handi is prostitution and illegal, unless your in most of Nevada.

Paying an old friend for a massage is legal.
Getting said friend to throw in a Handy is legal.
If he was soliciting as some have said, I'd think I'd want better goods than a 60 yo.....

 

[Manster7588]

Paying an old friend for a massage is legal.
Getting said friend to throw in a Handy is legal.
If he was soliciting as some have said, I'd think I'd want better goods than a 60 yo.....

You and NW are only lying to yourselves.

I'm not faulting Kraft, as I have considered visiting a "Massage" parlor in Vegas. Now I'm not 100% sure what parlors offer HE's, but odds are any establishment on Soring Mountain probably do.

 

[Southieinnc]

You and NW are only lying to yourselves.

How so?
I'm an old guy whose wife passed. I needed some action until I married my current wife.
I empathize with Kraft's situation. I could get all the tail I wanted and nobody paid any attention to me.
Kraft's life is constantly monitored- and often by haters!

 

[NWPATSFAN]

You and NW are only lying to yourselves.

I'm not faulting Kraft, as I have considered visiting a "Massage" parlor in Vegas. Now I'm not 100% sure what parlors offer HE's, but odds are any establishment on Soring Mountain probably do.

I've been asking questions. What is legal and what isn't? I posted some definitions. No one has refuted those definitions? From that I personally don't see what Kraft allegedly did as solicitation of prostitution.

 

[Southieinnc]

I've been asking questions. What is legal and what isn't? I posted some definitions. No one has refuted those definitions? From that I personally don't see what Kraft allegedly did as solicitation of prostitution.

You should ask @FlyerFinFan. He is Florida's expert on trafficking

 

[Manster7588]

How so?
I'm an old guy whose wife passed. I needed some action until I married my current wife.
I empathize with Kraft's situation. I could get all the tail I wanted and nobody paid any attention to me.
Kraft's life is constantly monitored- and often by haters!

He did pay for the handi. I'm not ragging on him for it, because I'm not going to say I wouldn't do the same.

 

[Manster7588]

I've been asking questions. What is legal and what isn't? I posted some definitions. No one has refuted those definitions? From that I personally don't see what Kraft allegedly did as solicitation of prostitution.

It's illegal in Florida to pay for sex. Yes paying for a handi is considered paying for sex.

It sounds like your trying to use the Clinton excuse.

 

[Southieinnc]

He did pay for the handi. I'm not ragging on him for it, because I'm not going to say I wouldn't do the same.

He paid for the massage. You were there so you know the cash he gave her was for the happy ending.
Did you see the contract?
Did you listen to the video?
He has known her for years.....

 

[Manster7588]

He paid for the massage. You were there so you know the cash he gave her was for the happy ending.
Did you see the contract?
Did you listen to the video?
He has known her for years.....

Krafts lawyers were much better than the DA.

By the way the "Friend" had to pay a fine for being a friend.

Remember OJ wasn't convicted either.

 

[Southieinnc]

Krafts lawyers were much better than the DA.

By the way the "Friend" had to pay a fine for being a friend.

Remember OJ wasn't convicted either.

The friend had to pay a fine because of other violations.

It was entrapment, plain and simple. It was also illegal taping by the popo.

Police got in trouble, not kraft!

 

[Manster7588]

The friend had to pay a fine because of other violations.

It was entrapment, plain and simple. It was also illegal taping by the popo.

Police got in trouble, not kraft!

Yes, I get it that the police screwed up, but that doesn't mean Kraft didn't pay for sex.

 

[Southieinnc]

Yes, I get it that the police screwed up, but that doesn't mean Kraft didn't pay for sex.

It also doesn't mean he did!

 

[Manster7588]

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He did pay for the handi. I'm not ragging on him for it, because I'm not going to say I wouldn't do the same.

Still not sure where a hand job meets either of these definitions?

the definition of prostitution. To offer for sexual intercourse in exchange for pay.

granting the client direct sexual access to the prostitute's body.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

You should ask @FlyerFinFan. He is Florida's expert on trafficking

We both know he doesn't want to answer it.

All he has is a bunch of empty accusations and his self righteous failef crusades

 

[Manster7588]

Websters

Definition of prostitution​

1: the act or practice of engaging in promiscuous sexual relations especially for money

Prostitution Laws

Laws define prostitution as the act of offering, agreeing to, or engaging in sexual acts for money. Nearly all states make prostitution a crime.

www.criminaldefenselawyer.com

Prostitution laws prohibit anyone from providing or offering to provide sexual conduct in exchange for money or any other form of compensation. They also punish those who offer sex for money (that is, solicit) or who purchase any sexual service.

Prostitution | Definition, History, & Facts

Prostitution, the practice of engaging in relatively indiscriminate sexual activity, in general with someone who is not a spouse or a friend, in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables. Learn more about the history of prostitution in this article.

www.britannica.com

prostitution, the practice of engaging in relatively indiscriminate sexual activity, in general with someone who is not a spouse or a friend, in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables. Prostitutes may be female or male or transgender, and prostitution may entail heterosexual or homosexual activity, but historically most prostitutes have been women and most clients men.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Websters

Definition of prostitution​

1: the act or practice of engaging in promiscuous sexual relations especially for money

Prostitution Laws

Laws define prostitution as the act of offering, agreeing to, or engaging in sexual acts for money. Nearly all states make prostitution a crime.

www.criminaldefenselawyer.com

Prostitution laws prohibit anyone from providing or offering to provide sexual conduct in exchange for money or any other form of compensation. They also punish those who offer sex for money (that is, solicit) or who purchase any sexual service.

Prostitution | Definition, History, & Facts

Prostitution, the practice of engaging in relatively indiscriminate sexual activity, in general with someone who is not a spouse or a friend, in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables. Learn more about the history of prostitution in this article.

www.britannica.com

prostitution, the practice of engaging in relatively indiscriminate sexual activity, in general with someone who is not a spouse or a friend, in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables. Prostitutes may be female or male or transgender, and prostitution may entail heterosexual or homosexual activity, but historically most prostitutes have been women and most clients men.

So we agree there are many definitions of what is considered prostitution. So which is right? Do we go by our own moral compass. Do we get a judge to determine what is and what isn't? Who determines if they are friends or not?

There is a difference between sexual relations, intercourse and prostitution. Do you agree?

 

[Manster7588]

So we agree there are many definitions of what is considered prostitution. So which is right? Do we go by our own moral compass. Do we get a judge to determine what is and what isn't? Who determines if they are friends or not?

There is a difference between sexual relations, intercourse and prostitution. Do you agree?

No we do not agree. If you masterbate it's for sexual pleasure, if you get a hand job its for sexual pleasure. If you pay for that sexual pleasure it's prostitution.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

No we do not agree. If you masterbate it's for sexual pleasure, if you get a hand job its for sexual pleasure. If you pay for that sexual pleasure it's prostitution.

We should agree there are many definitions. They're all there in black and white. I'm sure we can both produce even more.

So depending on the judge and which definition they choose to use could in fact with a verdict of it not being sex or intercourse.

We'll use one of you definitions and my scenario of taking a girl to dinner for a 1st date. You pay for said dinner. She gives you a hand job. Was she a friend? Or was she a prostitute by some of the definitions?

 

[Southieinnc]

No we do not agree. If you masterbate it's for sexual pleasure, if you get a hand job its for sexual pleasure. If you pay for that sexual pleasure it's prostitution.

So if you buy her lunch and she jumps your bones, she is a prostitute?

You are still ignoring being called out over assuming she was paid for the handy. You don't know!

It was a bungled, illegal investigation. Why would you assume this gentleman is guilty when a court threw it out?????
Class envy? He's a billionaire so he must have?