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Looks like the Coaching Staff got hit hard with the Covid too...

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BS you allow a stadium full of people in the stadium vaxxed and unvaxxed and 320 mil ( low number ) divided into 900000, high number gives you a 0.002812 % of dying , astronomical
Oh ok, so what number of deaths is not astronomical? is it ok if we allow let say, 1 in 1Million to die? is it 1 in 100000? what number is acceptable to you? and what if that one was a member of your family? Because we know right now that this virus has KILLED over 4 Million people world wide in less than 2 years. is that not a number that we should be concerned about?
 

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depends on if death and hospitalizations are important to you or not. Again the different standards have less to do with player safety and more to do with community safety. i.e., lets keep people out of the hospital and not overwhelm our heath care system. I won't argue the mandate portion because I disagree with government mandates on what do to with my body... but however, private industry can mandate what ever they want, and I can decide if I want to either visit their place of business or work for them. My choice.
it has nothing to do with it because there is negligible differences either way . private companies cannot mandate whatever they want . they have to hire candidates no matter race creed sex sexual origin and disability . they cant ask me about how my car is registered ( handicapped ) so they cant do whatever they want .
 

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it has nothing to do with it because there is negligible differences either way . private companies cannot mandate whatever they want . they have to hire candidates no matter race creed sex sexual origin and disability . they cant ask me about how my car is registered ( handicapped ) so they cant do whatever they want .
this is true. But they can say that you cannot come into my establishment without a short, shoes, or vaccine. and I can say fine, I will spend my money elsewhere. They can also say that you cannot work here without shoes, shirts or vaccine. As long as it applies to all.
 

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Oh ok, so what number of deaths is not astronomical? is it ok if we allow let say, 1 in 1Million to die? is it 1 in 100000? what number is acceptable to you? and what if that one was a member of your family? Because we know right now that this virus has KILLED over 4 Million people world wide in less than 2 years. is that not a number that we should be concerned about?
i am saying there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent it based on those numbers

now let divide 7 billion into 5 million that is 0.0007142% again astronomical

one of my family members did die from it

i believe you are doing everything you can but sorry life happens
 

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this is true. But they can say that you cannot come into my establishment without a short, shoes, or vaccine. and I can say fine, I will spend my money elsewhere. They can also say that you cannot work here without shoes, shirts or vaccine. As long as it applies to all.
but the standards in the NFL are different for certain types of players

last i checked i dont get shoes shirts injected into my body and there is no side effects that could cause me harm
 

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i am saying there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent it based on those numbers

now let divide 7 billion into 5 million that is 0.0007142% again astronomical

one of my family members did die from it

i believe you are doing everything you can but sorry life happens
I agree 100%. You do what is reasonable and you live your life. In my opinion, it is perfectly reasonable to get vaccinated because the facts are clear, vaccines are saving lives.
 

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but the standards in the NFL are different for certain types of players
again, this is a strong arm attempt to get players to get vaccinated for the good of the community, not for player safety per se. I don't argue that point. But every player has a choice. They can choose to opt out.
 

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I agree 100%. You do what is reasonable and you live your life. In my opinion, it is perfectly reasonable to get vaccinated because the facts are clear, vaccines are saving lives.
for the elderly and immune compromised . same as the flu but no one mandates that in the NFL
 

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again, this is a strong arm attempt to get players to get vaccinated for the good of the community, not for player safety per se. I don't argue that point. But every player has a choice. They can choose to opt out.
strong attempt sounds like coercion to me and a play on words

taking things away or making it harder doesnt scream voluntary to me
 

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for the elderly and immune compromised . same as the flu but no one mandates that in the NFL
Dad, the death rate for the flu and for covid are not even in the same league. Covid is now the second largest killer of people since 2020. as for the elderly and informed, do we just let em die? I hope not, because I hope to be an elderly some day!
 

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strong attempt sounds like coercion to me and a play on words

taking things away or making it harder doesnt scream voluntary to me
No play on words. Coercion is a fine word to use. We shouldn't have to coerce people to do the right thing for others. We should just have to ask. Actually, we shouldn't even have to ask, but it is what it is.
 

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like i said a million times you are wrong STFU
what can't people have an intelligent conversation with out digressing into this shit? No wonder both sides have their backs against the wall. Not directed specifically at you Dad.
 

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No play on words. Coercion is a fine word to use. We shouldn't have to coerce people to do the right thing for others. We should just have to ask. Actually, we shouldn't even have to ask, but it is what it is.
so i should be forced into a flu shot too ? or pneumonia ? we have to ask ? . we dont know the long term affects of this . we have a handle on short term and again if you get the vax and pass the virus anyway whats the point ?
 

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what can't people have an intelligent conversation with out digressing into this shit? No wonder both sides have their backs against the wall. Not directed specifically at you Dad.
perhaps you should have tagged chiller in this as well ? because how much do you want to bet that came out of his mouth 1st .
 

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but the standards in the NFL are different for certain types of players

last i checked i dont get shoes shirts injected into my body and there is no side effects that could cause me harm
Ah, the old side effect argument. if you believe that side affects will cause you harm, then you shouldn't. But there have now been over half a billion vaccines administered world wide It is the most studied vaccination ever. We know the side affects. and here is the bottom line. More people are dying from covid by astronomical numbers than by dying from side affects.
 

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Dad, the death rate for the flu and for covid are not even in the same league. Covid is now the second largest killer of people since 2020. as for the elderly and informed, do we just let em die? I hope not, because I hope to be an elderly some day!
i wont let anybody die . vax them , good move but a professional athlete is in the lowest risk category by far . in fact most of that population is vaxxed as they are for flu
 

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so i should be forced into a flu shot too ? or pneumonia ? we have to ask ? . we dont know the long term affects of this . we have a handle on short term and again if you get the vax and pass the virus anyway whats the point ?
Absolutely not Yoiu should not be forced to do anything. But I have a question fro you. Should I be forced to wrk or live in an environment that I find unhealthy?
 

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perhaps you should have tagged chiller in this as well ? because how much do you want to bet that came out of his mouth 1st .
your right, I should have. Sorry
 

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Ah, the old side effect argument. if you believe that side affects will cause you harm, then you shouldn't. But there have now been over half a billion vaccines administered world wide It is the most studied vaccination ever. We know the side affects. and here is the bottom line. More people are dying from covid by astronomical numbers than by dying from side affects.
we know nothing about long term side affects . we are finding out that resistance to other diseases could be affected but its early

i also no of no known NFL player as having died from covid or who passed it to an immediate family member and they died
 

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as for the flu, you need to understand the difference between a pandemic and and endemic virus. Covid is pandemic, the flu in endemic. We need to get covid to evolve into an endemic virus.
 
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