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It looks like the Lions Super Bowl hopes are likely gone...

jarntt

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Lions still one of the favorites
 

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Quit feeling sorry for yourselves and exaggerating the losses.

Only a handful of those are actually real losses.

The reason your defense is going to suck is that Glenn sucks. Why they brought him back is so beyond me. His insistence on playing man coverage too much despite not having the talent for it was always going to cost you at some point IMO. Just like it has in the previous 3 seasons.

Peko
Davenport
Cominsky
Wingo
Lynn
Bada
Barnes
Reeves Maybin
Rakestraw
Dorsey
Melifonwu

11 of the people on the list of defense weren't even players this season for the Lions.

The combined stats of those 11 players is something like 60 tackles .5 sack and 2 passes defensed this season. You can replace that type of prolific production by throwing a dart at NFL practice squad lists.

The big loss there is Davis, McNeil, and Hutch. McNeil and Hutch are very good and great players respectively you cant possibly replace. And Davis is one of the only guys on your defense that is good on man to man coverage which Glenn is going to call despite not having the talent to do so anyways as the season grinds on. So that loss is big. But could easily be offset by smart coaching. The Vikes have hardly played man coverage all year because we dont have the talent to do it. Flores would love to if given the opportunity.

So while the Lions have injuries.....only a couple of those injuries are actually a big deal if their coaching staff does their job.

You can add Montgomery to that shorter list now.
 

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Quit feeling sorry for yourselves and exaggerating the losses.

Only a handful of those are actually real losses.

The reason your defense is going to suck is that Glenn sucks. Why they brought him back is so beyond me. His insistence on playing man coverage too much despite not having the talent for it was always going to cost you at some point IMO. Just like it has in the previous 3 seasons.

Peko
Davenport
Cominsky
Wingo
Lynn
Bada
Barnes
Reeves Maybin
Rakestraw
Dorsey
Melifonwu

11 of the people on the list of defense weren't even players this season for the Lions.

The combined stats of those 11 players is something like 60 tackles .5 sack and 2 passes defensed this season. You can replace that type of prolific production by throwing a dart at NFL practice squad lists.

The big loss there is Davis, McNeil, and Hutch. McNeil and Hutch are very good and great players respectively you cant possibly replace. And Davis is one of the only guys on your defense that is good on man to man coverage which Glenn is going to call despite not having the talent to do so anyways as the season grinds on. So that loss is big. But could easily be offset by smart coaching. The Vikes have hardly played man coverage all year because we dont have the talent to do it. Flores would love to if given the opportunity.
From what I've read, they have 19 defensive players on the IR right now. If true, I don't care how much they contribute, changing out multiple starters, and taking depth players away each week has to be devastating to a defense. Although, I don't know how that compares to most NFL teams.

Here is the depth chart from week 1 that I saw posted on X recently! This list does not include Cominsky, Lynn, Martin or Moseley as they were already on IR.

Crazy...but again, maybe this is commonplace on most NFL teams this time of year....I really don't know
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From what I've read, they have 19 defensive players on the IR right now. If true, I don't care how much they contribute, changing out multiple starters each week has to be devastating to a defense. Although, I don't know how that compares to most NFL teams.

Here is the depth chart from week 1 that I saw posted on X recently! This list does not include Cominsky, Lynn, Martin or Moseley as they were already on IR.

Crazy...but again, maybe this is commonplace on most NFL teams this time of year....I really don't know
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please stop with the injury card
 

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I'm not sure I agree with that after watching that game. The Lions are known for scoring a lot of points in short periods of time, so I don't think the Bills were just playing "prevent".

Regardless, we are talking 42 points, which is twice the league average for scoring this season. I don't think the Bills defense handled the Lions like you attest they did.

Yeah, Allen is something.
 

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It will be very hard for the Lions to win it all this year with all of their injuries - they’ve lost about half of their D it seems, and losing Montgomery is a killer as the 1-2 punch of Montgomery/Gibbs is key to the Lions O. I think the Eagles are the favorites in the NFC, followed by the Packers.

Yeah, anyone can have a heyday with that weak defensive backend. Now Montgomery is out and they may change offensive production. We'll see
 

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I would pick the Packers over the Vikings because I trust Love more than Darnold and I think the Packers rushing game is better as well. Both D’s are very strong. I think the Packers are kind of being forgotten about in the playoff race but they will be a hard out in the playoffs.

Love can turn the ball over just as much as Darnold can. Vikings probably have the home field advantage. But, I'll go Packers. Love is more proven when down to the wire over Darnold. But things change in the playoffs.
 

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Yeah, Allen is something.

Honestly, I'm starting to think that if they can win a few SB's, he might end up being the GOAT after all is said and done. It will be tough to dethrone Brady and his many SB appearances and titles though (and catch up to Mahomes). Allen is just amazing to watch AND frustrating to watch if he is playing your team.
 

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Love can turn the ball over just as much as Darnold can. Vikings probably have the home field advantage. But, I'll go Packers. Love is more proven when down to the wire over Darnold. But things change in the playoffs.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Darnold's experience here will help him over Love. Although I still think it is a crapshoot between the two. I went with the Vikings just because of home field advantage.
 

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Honestly, I'm starting to think that if they can win a few SB's, he might end up being the GOAT after all is said and done. It will be tough to dethrone Brady and his many SB appearances and titles though (and catch up to Mahomes). Allen is just amazing to watch AND frustrating to watch if he is playing your team.

Never say never. Eventually, Burrow's Bengals will be back and never count out Lamar. AFC is stacked af. Just need someone to dethrone the Chiefs.
 

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Darnold's experience here will help him over Love. Although I still think it is a crapshoot between the two. I went with the Vikings just because of home field advantage.

Well, the home field advantage is key. Never been, but it seems like its really loud in that dome.
 

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i never used the word prohibited
Well you seemed pretty vocal about me talking about injuries. It was the only thing you said in your response to me. :D
 

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Never say never. Eventually, Burrow's Bengals will be back and never count out Lamar. AFC is stacked af. Just need someone to dethrone the Chiefs.
I think I've seen enough out of Burrow and Lamar to say that they aren't near Allen. Just my opinion. I think he is clearly better than they are at any point in their career. They both have many years, but I think Allen does too. Just my two cents.
 

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I think if the lions can hold on to that #1 seed then they still should have a better than even chance to make the super bowl. As a wild card teams they're toast.

I just don't see how they can overcome losing so many people on the defensive side of the ball. Monty was probably the straw that broke my camels back for me. He was such a workhorse for this offense. Don't get me wrong, the offense will still be really good, but Monty was a key player in it, and I think we will lose some offensive punch.

When you don't have any defensive punch, and you start to lose a little on the offensive side, I think we are too late in the year to really recover and make an SB run. Even if they were a #1 seed, I wouldn't bet on the Lions at this point.
 
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