Sportster 72
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Watson is 28-25 .... you want to trade 3 or 4 picks and 1 or 2 players for him? Maybe the WTF can get Trent Dilfer out of retirement. He won a SB.
I cannot believe we are still talking about this ^ anymore. We all know the FULL story and we all know how things unfolded. Guy got a sh*t ton of money for very few wins here (Captain played his cards just right) and parlayed that into another guaranteed contract ($84m) with little to show for it which parlayed into another guaranteed contract of which its looking like Zimmer may lose his job as they cannot sustain success in Minny. Just because we cannot find a suitable replacement since KC, doesn't mean he was anymore than avg while here (like the team) and while he has had an uptick of success in Minny, he also has more talent around him which correct me if I'm wrong, that has resulted in how many playoff wins? None? I will say this, he certainly did not put together a season like Mark Rypien had which resulted in MVP and Superbowl winner. When I think back on QB's who had success while in DC in any kind of order the fall out would go something like this:
1. Sammy Baugh (3-3 in playoffs)
2. Sonny Jurgenson (none)
3. Joe Theismann (6-2 in playoffs)
4. Mark Rypien (5-2 in playoffs)
5. Doug Williams (3-0 in playoffs)
6. RGIII (0-1 in playoffs)
7. Kirk Cousin (0-1 in playoffs)
8. Mark Brunell (1-1 in playoffs)
9. Brad Johnson (1-1 in playoffs)
10. Billy Kilmer (2-5 in playoffs)
Not that this list is full of greats because its not, but full of very good to avg ones, the best are certainly top 5 on this list while the rest were avg to below avg while guiding the team at QB.
Exactly. If Watson is not good enough to raise a poor Texans team to the upper echelon, why would anyone think he could raise a poor WTF team up to that level. As good as Watson is, he isn’t that good. It would be foolish to even entertain giving up the crown jewels for a guy that might very well be headed to the big house for a stint. Especially a guy that has shown he can’t carry a team on his back.Watson is 28-25 .... you want to trade 3 or 4 picks and 1 or 2 players for him? Maybe the WTF can get Trent Dilfer out of retirement. He won a SB.
That is a very fair question j_y, his stats are very close to Cousins and Watson although his record is worse. He is clearly better than anyone that is on the team and while I think he would add a 1-3s win or two this team is still short at defense and kicker. Until those positions are improved this team at best would be around a .500 team.I’ll ask the same question of Carr that I posed on Watson. What has Carr ever done to make you believe he can lead our piss poor team to the next level? the only difference with Carr is he will be a FA. We don’t have to give up draft capital to acquire him. That at least helps to put talent around him.
I ask these questions not because these 2 QBs are not talented, but because they can’t, by themselves, solve the dilemma of bad football here for decades. So if they cost you anything more than cap space, then they are not a smart investment for this team.That is a very fair question j_y, his stats are very close to Cousins and Watson although his record is worse. He is clearly better than anyone that is on the team and while I think he would add a 1-3s win or two this team is still short at defense and kicker. Until those positions are improved this team at best would be around a .500 team.
He would be an FA I thinkReally depends on what they want certainly wouldn't trade a 1st for him
I mentioned earlier we have lots more problems than our stinkin kicker.I like Turner. He is not the issue. Spent big on Fitz and Samuel.....not here.
Counted on Logan.....not here.
Drafted Cosmi.....not here.
18m for Scherff.....not here.
I get that, but he was A problem.I mentioned earlier we have lots more problems than our stinkin kicker.