POLL What team is the best fit for Julio Jones?

[RememberTheKoy]

The Eagles beat the Pats in the SB.

Like I said stranger things have happened.

Stranger things have happened isn't a qualifier to make the Patriots a better contending team than the other options though.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He is a past MVP, but he's long removed by that at this point. He is completely washed physically which is no surprise given the physical nature of the way he plays and the damage he has taken over the years.

And I think Mac Jones can be good in NE and will be starting over Cam before long. But the Patriots aren't winning or even getting close to the Super Bowl with a rookie Mac Jones.

Jeff Hostetler, Stan Humphries, Niel O'Donnell, Chris Chandler, Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman and Rich Gannon all say hold our beer. QBs that aren't/weren't much better in many a years as Cam say hold our collective beers.

Can't believe I'm defending Cam.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Stranger things have happened isn't a qualifier to make the Patriots a better contending team than the other options though.

We're talking about a future HOFr who may be traded to a contender. He's mentioned his desire to play with Cam. I've provided the facts of where NE has improved. You need to look at who can fit him under the cap. Who has the draft capital or trade options.

All you've done is say NE can't get to the SB with either of Cam or Jones. I showed you a list of QBs who made it to the SB. There overall body of work were no better than Cams. Jones is TBD.

Try to stay focused.

 

[broncosmitty]

We're talking about a future HOFr who may be traded to a contender. He's mentioned his desire to play with Cam. I've provided the facts of where NE has improved. You need to look at who can fit him under the cap. Who has the draft capital or trade options.

All you've done is say NE can't get to the SB with either of Cam or Jones. I showed you a list of QBs who made it to the SB. There overall body of work were no better than Cams. Jones is TBD.

Try to stay focused.

Cam didn’t manage to throw a TD to a wide receiver last year.

I don’t see the guys you listed being that inept.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Cam didn’t manage to throw a TD to a wide receiver last year.

I don’t see the guys you listed being that inept.

We're not talking just one year. You can't take Cams one year against the careers of these other QBs. Bottom line they all played meh for a majority of their careers. But in some cases had a good year and a good team that got them to a SB.

Cam likely had more rushing TDs last year than those QBs. Not going to look it up. We know Cam was terrible, the WRs for NE sucked. They had no TEs to speak of.

Cam has supposedly fixed his mechanics and already has a much better set of offensive weapons to start the season.

 

[broncosmitty]

We're not talking just one year. You can't take Cams one year against the careers of these other QBs. Bottom line they all played meh for a majority of their careers. But in some cases had a good year and a good team that got them to a SB.

Cam likely had more rushing TDs last year than those QBs. Not going to look it up. We know Cam was terrible, the WRs for NE sucked. They had no TEs to speak of.

Cam has supposedly fixed his mechanics and already has a much better set of offensive weapons to start the season.

Good Cam is gone. He’s a shell of his former self. Not much sense in discussing what he once was. He is what he is now.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Good Cam is gone. He’s a shell of his former self. Not much sense in discussing what he once was. He is what he is now.

We don't know for sure what Cam is? Last year it didn't take a QB whisperer to figure out his mechanics were off. He was terrible and had little to work with.

 

[broncosmitty]

We don't know for sure what Cam is? Last year it didn't take a QB whisperer to figure out his mechanics were off. He was terrible and had little to work with.

He is a guy on a one year deal, for a team that drafted a QB in the first round.

The clock is ticking.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Jeff Hostetler, Stan Humphries, Niel O'Donnell, Chris Chandler, Brad Johnson, Rex Grossman and Rich Gannon all say hold our beer. QBs that aren't/weren't much better in many a years as Cam say hold our collective beers.

Can't believe I'm defending Cam.

Rich Gannon had a MVP season.

Also for the other guys there were dominant defenses. Patriots don't have a defense near that level.

Cam Newton is a shell of his former self. He is a really terrible QB right now.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

We're talking about a future HOFr who may be traded to a contender. He's mentioned his desire to play with Cam. I've provided the facts of where NE has improved. You need to look at who can fit him under the cap. Who has the draft capital or trade options.

All you've done is say NE can't get to the SB with either of Cam or Jones. I showed you a list of QBs who made it to the SB. There overall body of work were no better than Cams. Jones is TBD.

Try to stay focused.

Fact is, the other teams mentioned are in a better position to contend this season than the Patriots. You're in denial about where the Patriots stand right now in this post-Brady era.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He is a guy on a one year deal, for a team that drafted a QB in the first round.

The clock is ticking.

No doubt. But all we need is one decent year. He doesn't even need to be really good. Assuming he even gets the nod from BB as the starter? This team on paper is more talented then we're used to. The division is improved as well but I'm thinking NE surprises a lot of people.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Rich Gannon had a MVP season.

Also for the other guys there were dominant defenses. Patriots don't have a defense near that level.

Cam Newton is a shell of his former self. He is a really terrible QB right now.

Gannon had ONE MVP season. Cam doesn't need to have an MVP season. He only needs a decent year with this team.

Have you been sleeping? NE will have one of the best Ds in the league. Book it.

We've already said Cam isn't the same player he was in 2015. He may not be what he was in 2020 either.

This is a vastly improved offense. Lots more receiving weapons. Two TEs who can block and catch. A rookie bruising RB behind that Oline. Even without JJ this team are days ahead of last season.

If Cam gets the start, and his passing continues to suffer watchout for heavy doses of RPOs. Teams will get worn out come the 3rd and 4th qtr with this line up.

 

[broncosmitty]

No doubt. But all we need is one decent year. He doesn't even need to be really good. Assuming he even gets the nod from BB as the starter? This team on paper is more talented then we're used to. The division is improved as well but I'm thinking NE surprises a lot of people.

I think NE will be tough again too.

But I don’t think Cam starts most of the games.

Really want to see how Henry and Smith are utilized. Loved that they added both.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Fact is, the other teams mentioned are in a better position to contend this season than the Patriots. You're in denial about where the Patriots stand right now in this post-Brady era.

Yet you continue to only post your opinion. I think you slept thru FAs and the draft.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I think NE will be tough again too.

But I don’t think Cam starts most of the games.

Really want to see how Henry and Smith are utilized. Loved that they added both.

You're not going to get an arguement from me. I hope Mac Jones is the real deal. I've never been a fan of Cam. But I'm more optomistic going into this year then I was last year. If Cam continues his woeful throwing ways it's going to be a run, run, run heavy offense. Until BB pulls the trigger on Jones.

Yes going to be fun seeing what McDaniels does with this offense. Add BB always putting guys where they fit/perform best, this includes Cam. BB will figure out how to get whatever Cam has left. If there is anything left.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Gannon had ONE MVP season. Cam doesn't need to have an MVP season. He only needs a decent year with this team.

Have you been sleeping? NE will have one of the best Ds in the league. Book it.

We've already said Cam isn't the same player he was in 2015. He may not be what he was in 2020 either.

This is a vastly improved offense. Lots more receiving weapons. Two TEs who can block and catch. A rookie bruising RB behind that Oline. Even without JJ this team are days ahead of last season.

If Cam gets the start, and his passing continues to suffer watchout for heavy doses of RPOs. Teams will get worn out come the 3rd and 4th qtr with this line up.

If Cam isn't even what he was in 2020 then the hell are you smoking thinking the Patriots are anything close to a contender?

The Patriots will be battling it out with the Dolphins as the second best team in the division. They are on the outside looking in for the playoff picture.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Yet you continue to only post your opinion. I think you slept thru FAs and the draft.

You're way over valuing your team and their acquisitions. The Patriots are a mid-level team.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

If Cam isn't even what he was in 2020 then the hell are you smoking thinking the Patriots are anything close to a contender?

The Patriots will be battling it out with the Dolphins as the second best team in the division. They are on the outside looking in for the playoff picture.

That was meant to be, he could/should be better than 2020. None of us know. Pretty difficult for him to be worse and still the starter after week four.

You also slept thru the new 17 game schedule being added along with the change in playoff seeding.

I can understand your angst as 1 June approaches. You'd prefer JJ go anywhere but NE, even within your division. Can't say I blame you.

No stop projecting your opinion with no substance and go read what's been going on during the off season.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

You're way over valuing your team and their acquisitions. The Patriots are a mid-level team.

You're still sleeping.

 

[SteelersPride]

You're still sleeping.

Is he accusing someone else of overvaluing their team? Yowza