The Seattle Seahawks have traded for Jamaal Adams

[deanpet21]

Brutal for the Jets that they couldn't keep a player like Adams around. What's the point of nailing top 6 picks if they're just gone in 3 years?
What an absolute disaster.

And the Seahawks can never get a player as talented as Adams because they don't draft high enough. No team would trade their top 5 pick for 2 late 1sts and a 3rd.

Seattle just got way better. Wish they didn't win this Adams competition. Smart move.

I disagree. A huge amount of draft capital plus you have to give him a monster contract for a nonQB. You can never forecast future picks on where there will be. What if Wilson gets hurt? Sea was still probably a playoff team without this trade. At least Mack can change a game with sacks. Adams cant make the impact like a Mack can. Not knocking Adams but too rich for my blood.

 

[deanpet21]

Can anyone tell me the last safety to go Top Six?


That's seems like a rare move. For good reason.

Sean Taylor

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I’m fine with the trade tbh, I mean I’d much rather have Adams then whoever the Seahawks were going to draft in the first round anyways

Crystal Ball?

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

While I agree that Seattle gave up too much here, the notion that safeties don't matter that much is ludicrous. With the modern big passing offenses, safeties are even more important, imo. Where were the Steelers last year before they acquired Minkah. And Matthieu makes the Chiefs secondary exponentially better. Last season, the Seahawks were getting lit up in the secondary before they acquired Diggs from the Lions and he paid immediate dividends. Having two pro bowl safeties and an up and coming lockdown corner is huge for this team.
Now, of course, we still need to address the pass rush issue but the Hawks now have arguably the best LB/ secondary combination in the division and maybe the league.
Having said that, yes, as of now, the Jets made a great haul for a guy that didn't want to be there anyway but unless they hit on those picks and get rid of Gase, it won't matter anyway. That franchise is going nowhere soon.
As for signing him, if he will play this year on his rookie deal, they will be fine. The team will have plenty of cap space starting in 2021. Still gave up too much, I agree with others but not as lopsided as some believe, especially if it brings another championship.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I disagree. A huge amount of draft capital plus you have to give him a monster contract for a nonQB. You can never forecast future picks on where there will be. What if Wilson gets hurt? Sea was still probably a playoff team without this trade. At least Mack can change a game with sacks. Adams cant make the impact like a Mack can. Not knocking Adams but too rich for my blood.

It's two LATE 1st round picks in all likelihood (pending injury) and with COVID who the hell knows what draft picks will mean in terms of value if NCAAF is delayed (or doesn't even start), etc. Seattle always finds a way into the playoffs with Wilson and with Adams it's probably a lock (again pending injuries). If HALF their offense didn't get injured in the Arizona game they probably would've beat San Fran the final week, claimed the division and bye, and probably represented the Super Bowl.

As for Mack vs. Adams, agreed there... but the Bears were never a lock to win their division let alone make the playoffs with the team Mack was going to. In addition, Adams is probably the best safety in the league (Mack arguably best LBer at the time) and is a fantastic blitzer... so I'd expect Seattle to use him in packages where he's blitzing often. Adams is probably easily the best tackler/blitzer safety in the league, so it's decent value here... Seattle also runs very unorthodox packages so would not be surprised for 3-3-5 packages which is Adams acting in a 3-4 capacity for blitzing.

The one thing I did NOT like about the trade (that I later found out) was giving away McDougald who has been very serviceable for Seattle but I'm assuming he doesn't fit the scheme Carroll is now looking for and they needed cap room.

 

[deanpet21]

It's two LATE 1st round picks in all likelihood (pending injury) and with COVID who the hell knows what draft picks will mean in terms of value if NCAAF is delayed (or doesn't even start), etc. Seattle always finds a way into the playoffs with Wilson and with Adams it's probably a lock (again pending injuries). If HALF their offense didn't get injured in the Arizona game they probably would've beat San Fran the final week, claimed the division and bye, and probably represented the Super Bowl.

As for Mack vs. Adams, agreed there... but the Bears were never a lock to win their division let alone make the playoffs with the team Mack was going to. In addition, Adams is probably the best safety in the league (Mack arguably best LBer at the time) and is a fantastic blitzer... so I'd expect Seattle to use him in packages where he's blitzing often. Adams is probably easily the best tackler/blitzer safety in the league, so it's decent value here... Seattle also runs very unorthodox packages so would not be surprised for 3-3-5 packages which is Adams acting in a 3-4 capacity for blitzing.

The one thing I did NOT like about the trade (that I later found out) was giving away McDougald who has been very serviceable for Seattle but I'm assuming he doesn't fit the scheme Carroll is now looking for and they needed cap room.

You are speculating they will be 2 late first round picks. You are forgetting Adams wants a monster contract. The Mack trade was better than this one b/c the Bears got a 2nd round pick back and a top5 pass rusher in the league. . Plus Mack is a pass rusher which is the most important position on the defense. If the Redskins ever make this trade for Adams it would of caused media chaos.

You already proved the point they can beat SF without Adams so why mortgage future talent and cap space for one player? This is a bigger overpay than the RG3 trade. but at least RG3 was a QB. Sea payed more than the Bears, I thought I would have never seen that. The Bears never had the right QB in place so of course they weren't going to contend for a Super Bowl. B/c you guys have Russel Wilson there was no need to do this kind of trade. plus your team still doesn't have a legit pass rusher.

 

[beardown07]

Kahlil Mack trade looking pretty good right now.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

dunno if its been posted......i didnt read the whole thread.......walter likes the trade!

"Seahawks acquire S Jamal Adams and 2022 4th-round pick from Jets for 2021 1st- and 3rd-round picks, 2022 1st-round pick, S Bradley McDougald
It's hard to believe the Jets actually traded Jamal Adams. I know it's been a rumor that has circulated for quite some time, but I thought that the Jets would either find a way for Adams and beleaguered head coach Adam Gase to reconcile, or just outright fire Gase for not being able to generate any sort of enthusiasm from his players.

The Jets have obtained two first-round picks for Adams, but I can't say they won this deal. They'll be drafting in the 20s because the Seahawks always find a way to reach the playoffs with Russell Wilson, and that was before Adams. It's likely their two choices will be in the 25-32 range, so that's not enough for Adams, who is arguably the best player at his position in the entire league. It's disappointing that the Jets didn't fire Gase instead. Barely anyone on the Jets' roster likes Gase, and now the players will have even less respect for their coach. Gase will probably be axed after the 2020 season, so why not just get rid of him now and retain Adams?

I've seen the argument that the Jets won this trade because they acquired two first-round picks. I'd ordinarily agree, but two things must be considered: First, both choices, as mentioned, will be toward the end of the opening round. Second, the Jets have a small window to win during Sam Darnold's tiny rookie contract. Trading Adams away will negate that.

The Seahawks, meanwhile, have given themselves a much better chance of winning the Super Bowl. With Adams joining Quandre Diggs, Shaq Griffin and potentially Quinton Dunbar, they may just have assembled the Legion of Boom 2.0. If Dunbar can get past his legal issues, it'll be extremely difficult to throw on the Seahawks.

Grade for Seahawks - A
Grade for Jets - D"

Darnold and Gase have literally nothing to do with how you evaluate this trade, lmao. Gase is a dead man walking and those 1st round picks have 5 years of control. AND you get McDougald who is a solid safety himself. If Darnold sucks, guess what, you have ammo to get another QB even as your roster fleshes out.

Walter is so fucking bad at his job, it's sickening he profits off of it.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

The problem with the Mack trade was the Bears swung and missed with Trubisky. Not just a little either and put themselves in a hole. The trade for Mack himself was fine. They made and a bet and they lost.

 

[PDay8810]

I agree with others but not as lopsided as some believe, especially if it brings another championship.

Yes Sir, the bolded is all that matters. This guy is a great leader and better player.
I think this trade was good for both teams, and most of this naysayers would be defending the cost if their team had done this deal.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

You are speculating they will be 2 late first round picks. You are forgetting Adams wants a monster contract. The Mack trade was better than this one b/c the Bears got a 2nd round pick back and a top5 pass rusher in the league. . Plus Mack is a pass rusher which is the most important position on the defense. If the Redskins ever make this trade for Adams it would of caused media chaos.

You already proved the point they can beat SF without Adams so why mortgage future talent and cap space for one player? This is a bigger overpay than the RG3 trade. but at least RG3 was a QB. Sea payed more than the Bears, I thought I would have never seen that. The Bears never had the right QB in place so of course they weren't going to contend for a Super Bowl. B/c you guys have Russel Wilson there was no need to do this kind of trade. plus your team still doesn't have a legit pass rusher.

Irvin (liability in run), Mayowa (liability in run), Adams (great against run), Brooks (1st round pick who had the highest QB pressure/hits in NCAAF last year from a LBer), Reed if he gets back to form (10+ sacks in 18... down in 19 because of the stupid 6 game suspension)...

I think Seattle's pass rush is fine... of course we don't have someone at the caliber of a Von Miller/Khalil Mack/Nick Bosa, etc... but Seattle has more than enough pass rushers... downside is of course if you guess wrong and it's a run, those players are weak against that... but fortunately Adams is a tackling/run stopping machine.

 

[bksballer89]

Good trade for both but I think Seattle just guaranteed themselves a trip to the SB....

Lmfaoo

 

[deanpet21]

Irvin (liability in run), Mayowa (liability in run), Adams (great against run), Brooks (1st round pick who had the highest QB pressure/hits in NCAAF last year from a LBer), Reed if he gets back to form (10+ sacks in 18... down in 19 because of the stupid 6 game suspension)...

I think Seattle's pass rush is fine... of course we don't have someone at the caliber of a Von Miller/Khalil Mack/Nick Bosa, etc... but Seattle has more than enough pass rushers... downside is of course if you guess wrong and it's a run, those players are weak against that... but fortunately Adams is a tackling/run stopping machine.

average at best man. Plus your are counting on a rookie LB to step up.

 

[deanpet21]

Irvin (liability in run), Mayowa (liability in run), Adams (great against run), Brooks (1st round pick who had the highest QB pressure/hits in NCAAF last year from a LBer), Reed if he gets back to form (10+ sacks in 18... down in 19 because of the stupid 6 game suspension)...

I think Seattle's pass rush is fine... of course we don't have someone at the caliber of a Von Miller/Khalil Mack/Nick Bosa, etc... but Seattle has more than enough pass rushers... downside is of course if you guess wrong and it's a run, those players are weak against that... but fortunately Adams is a tackling/run stopping machine.

Even with this move its very possible you guys are not a top 5 defense this year.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Even with this move its very possible you guys are not a top 5 defense this year.

How does one have a top 5 defense with a My Little Pony pass rush?

 

[deanpet21]

How does one have a top 5 defense with a My Little Pony pass rush?

lol. i agree with you. Sea pass rush is just not there on paper right now. They didnt have to make that trade. what an overpay.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Even with this move its very possible you guys are not a top 5 defense this year.

Agreed entirely. We lost Clowney (who still hasn't signed with anyone but can't imagine we afford him now) and we were a bottom 10 defense last year so acquiring Adams will help, especially given how bad our secondary tackling and coverage was. We did acquire quite a few pass rushers, hopefully get a healthy Diggs, and Dunbar was one of the best corners last year... along with Adams, but I assume we're going to be in the teens at best.

Also agreed with your other quote on counting on a rookie to make a splash which you can't always do. I was just stating that he was a fantastic pass rusher in College (which of course can mean jack crap in the NFL). Just stating it though that obviously the coaches/FO is HOPING it translates.

The Bears were nearly a top 10 defense before they acquired Mack. Mack pushed them into the top 5.... I think Adams (along with some other additions) will push Seattle's rank up about 10 as well, so IMO worth.

 

[CaptainStubing]

Way too much to give up for a safety

 

[Tapey]

Crystal Ball?

Yea, but I can’t give you anymore details for uh .... legal reasons

 

[Southieinnc]

dunno if its been posted......i didnt read the whole thread.......walter likes the trade!

"Seahawks acquire S Jamal Adams and 2022 4th-round pick from Jets for 2021 1st- and 3rd-round picks, 2022 1st-round pick, S Bradley McDougald
It's hard to believe the Jets actually traded Jamal Adams. I know it's been a rumor that has circulated for quite some time, but I thought that the Jets would either find a way for Adams and beleaguered head coach Adam Gase to reconcile, or just outright fire Gase for not being able to generate any sort of enthusiasm from his players.

The Jets have obtained two first-round picks for Adams, but I can't say they won this deal. They'll be drafting in the 20s because the Seahawks always find a way to reach the playoffs with Russell Wilson, and that was before Adams. It's likely their two choices will be in the 25-32 range, so that's not enough for Adams, who is arguably the best player at his position in the entire league. It's disappointing that the Jets didn't fire Gase instead. Barely anyone on the Jets' roster likes Gase, and now the players will have even less respect for their coach. Gase will probably be axed after the 2020 season, so why not just get rid of him now and retain Adams?

I've seen the argument that the Jets won this trade because they acquired two first-round picks. I'd ordinarily agree, but two things must be considered: First, both choices, as mentioned, will be toward the end of the opening round. Second, the Jets have a small window to win during Sam Darnold's tiny rookie contract. Trading Adams away will negate that.

The Seahawks, meanwhile, have given themselves a much better chance of winning the Super Bowl. With Adams joining Quandre Diggs, Shaq Griffin and potentially Quinton Dunbar, they may just have assembled the Legion of Boom 2.0. If Dunbar can get past his legal issues, it'll be extremely difficult to throw on the Seahawks.

Grade for Seahawks - A
Grade for Jets - D"

Do you still have that land in Florida for sale?
I hear Seattle is in the market.....