Eagles face tough decisions this offseason

[Rey]

 

[eaglesnut]

Agreed on that. I was thinking the other day he has a kid coming soon (not sure how soon).

But if he was to have issues remembering the birth of his first kid could that lead to him pulling an Andrew Luck?

That's why you need to retaliate. Clowney is free to do this again to another quarterback. No one deterred him.

 

[ctc]

Looks like Roseman is going to be busy, one way or another.

 

[_phiLLies_]

We learned on Monday night that the Cleveland Browns requested permission to interview Jim Schwartz for their vacant head coaching position and the news was met in Philly with chuckles.

Take him, right?

Not so fast. Because as much as many fans would like to see Schwartz out of town, he wouldn’t be an easy guy to replace. The grass really isn’t always greener.

Since Schwartz became the Eagles’ defensive coordinator in 2016, and was given near complete autonomy over that side of the ball, check out where the Eagles rank in several key defensive categories:

Points allowed: 7th
Total yards allowed: 11th
Rushing yards allowed: 1st
Opponent 3rd down %: 3rd
Opponent 1st downs: 2nd
Takeaways: 9th
Sacks: 12th

During his time here, the Eagles have played six playoff games and have given up 20 or fewer points in five of them. Even including Super Bowl LII, they have given up an average of just 17.0 points per game in those six.

And Schwartz is doing this with just two players who have made a Pro Bowl — Fletcher Cox and Malcolm Jenkins. To put that in perspective, the Eagles’ offense has had six Pro Bowlers in the last four years.

To some extend, Schwartz is responsible for some of the lack of talent. The Eagles have continually brought in players with whom he has familiarity. Some have worked and some haven’t. But the Eagles also haven’t done a great job of drafting or providing Schwartz with top-notch talent. Schwartz has schemed defensively with what he has.

And it’s no surprise that the Eagles are 23rd in the NFL in passing defense under Schwartz after watching the injuries after the last two years. They’ve played with guys like Ryan Lewis and Dexter McDougle. So when you’re screaming for Schwartz to blitz more, just remember that every blitz leaves an inadequate secondary exposed.

I think the problem many fans have with Schwartz is perception and style of play.

While the Eagles have the third-best defense in the last four years in third-down percentage, they are 10th when it comes to 3rd-and-10 or longer. And they have given up 44 pass plays of 40+ yards; just four teams have given up more. So this defense is not without its warts.

But if Schwartz were to leave, there’s not a slam dunk replacement on the current staff. So the Eagles would probably have to go outside the organization to find his replacement and it would be tough to find a better option.

For the record, I’d be pretty shocked if the Browns hired Schwartz to be their head coach. They’re casting a wide net and my guess is that they end up with someone else. The Eagles should hope they do.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

That's why you need to retaliate. Clowney is free to do this again to another quarterback. No one deterred him.

Sorry...still not buying it.

 

[ill]

We learned on Monday night that the Cleveland Browns requested permission to interview Jim Schwartz for their vacant head coaching position and the news was met in Philly with chuckles.

Take him, right?

Not so fast. Because as much as many fans would like to see Schwartz out of town, he wouldn’t be an easy guy to replace. The grass really isn’t always greener.

Since Schwartz became the Eagles’ defensive coordinator in 2016, and was given near complete autonomy over that side of the ball, check out where the Eagles rank in several key defensive categories:

Points allowed: 7th
Total yards allowed: 11th
Rushing yards allowed: 1st
Opponent 3rd down %: 3rd
Opponent 1st downs: 2nd
Takeaways: 9th
Sacks: 12th

During his time here, the Eagles have played six playoff games and have given up 20 or fewer points in five of them. Even including Super Bowl LII, they have given up an average of just 17.0 points per game in those six.

And Schwartz is doing this with just two players who have made a Pro Bowl — Fletcher Cox and Malcolm Jenkins. To put that in perspective, the Eagles’ offense has had six Pro Bowlers in the last four years.

To some extend, Schwartz is responsible for some of the lack of talent. The Eagles have continually brought in players with whom he has familiarity. Some have worked and some haven’t. But the Eagles also haven’t done a great job of drafting or providing Schwartz with top-notch talent. Schwartz has schemed defensively with what he has.

And it’s no surprise that the Eagles are 23rd in the NFL in passing defense under Schwartz after watching the injuries after the last two years. They’ve played with guys like Ryan Lewis and Dexter McDougle. So when you’re screaming for Schwartz to blitz more, just remember that every blitz leaves an inadequate secondary exposed.

I think the problem many fans have with Schwartz is perception and style of play.

While the Eagles have the third-best defense in the last four years in third-down percentage, they are 10th when it comes to 3rd-and-10 or longer. And they have given up 44 pass plays of 40+ yards; just four teams have given up more. So this defense is not without its warts.

But if Schwartz were to leave, there’s not a slam dunk replacement on the current staff. So the Eagles would probably have to go outside the organization to find his replacement and it would be tough to find a better option.

For the record, I’d be pretty shocked if the Browns hired Schwartz to be their head coach. They’re casting a wide net and my guess is that they end up with someone else. The Eagles should hope they do.

that's bold

 

[eaglesnut]

Sorry...still not buying it.

Be dense and stupid if you want.
The Eagles are soft to let that happen. Obviously the defense doesn't care about Wentz and we have a huge fucking culture problem. Even a healthy Wentz can't make up for that lack of heart.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

Be dense and stupid if you want.
The Eagles are soft to let that happen. Obviously the defense doesn't care about Wentz and we have a huge fucking culture problem. Even a healthy Wentz can't make up for that lack of heart.

Wow. Wasn’t trying to come across as rude. But guy go ahead and keep banging the one note, Neantherthal man.

 

[ill]

Wow. Wasn’t trying to come across as rude. But guy go ahead and keep banging the one note, Neantherthal man.

I agree with you. Beat them on the scoreboard. That's the only retaliation we need.

 

[Screamin Eagle]

I am a retaliatory type, you hit me and I will hit back even harder. That said in the NFL you have to be smart about it.

 

[Rambunctious]

The Eagles battled their asses off this season. I have to hand it to them.

 

[Northern Eagle]

It looked like it when he let everyone get deep. We need a true centerfielder.

Well if we want to get technical, McLeod is our centerfielder - Jenkins plays more of a dime LB but I get what you're saying. Howie's got some big decisions to make because if I'm not mistaken McLeod's also a FA... we might be going into next season with 3 new Safeties

 

[Northern Eagle]

Wade Phillips anyone? Rams let him go. I'm not sure if he would be an upgrade though over Schwartz?

Wade Phillips would require a scheme change and new personnel - he's one of the few left that still plays base 30 defense... if Schwartz does leave (I don't think he's leaving yet) then I'd go a bit off script: Antonio Pierce, from Arizona State. If we wanted someone with a little more pro experience, Kris Richard.

 

[Sparhawk]

Any chance we can package Alshon with a 4th or 5th round pick to unload his contract?

I don't trust the FO with that many draft picks, so instead of wasting them on another Thorson, dump some salary and find FA WR that can actually stay on the field and produce.

 

[ill]

Any chance we can package Alshon with a 4th or 5th round pick to unload his contract?

I don't trust the FO with that many draft picks, so instead of wasting them on another Thorson, dump some salary and find FA WR that can actually stay on the field and produce.

I'd be ok with this plan.

 

[Iggloo]

There is zero way we can unload Alshon for a draft pick given his salary and injury history. At best it would be a conditional 7th or something token.

 

[Sparhawk]

There is zero way we can unload Alshon for a draft pick given his salary and injury history. At best it would be a conditional 7th or something token.

No, I'm attaching one of our later draft picks in an effort to dump him.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

No, I'm attaching one of our later draft picks in an effort to dump him.

That’s something I’ve seen bandied about recently. I’m a little dubious as I think the salary/injury combo is a rough one to get anyone to take, even in today’s NFL.

Still, we have seen a few instances lately of teams clearly purchasing cap space with picks. It’s becoming a thing. I’m just concerned the reality is that it would take us giving more than a 4th to get someone to take him.

Perhaps I would entertain a third if we do get a second third for Foles. But even that makes my stomach turn a little because we do have to infuse youth fast.

Reality might just be that we need to walk one more year with that contract on our necks.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

I am a retaliatory type, you hit me and I will hit back even harder. That said in the NFL you have to be smart about it.

That’s well said. I agree. I’m not a non retaliatory pussy. I just think there is no longer room for that in the game. Yes, there is no longer room for what Clowney did either. But two wrongs don’t make a right when such a dangerous game is being played.

 

[Sparhawk]

That’s well said. I agree. I’m not a non retaliatory pussy. I just think there is no longer room for that in the game. Yes, there is no longer room for what Clowney did either. But two wrongs don’t make a right when such a dangerous game is being played.

I think the optics is that Wentz did get up and his teammates didn't realize the extent of the hit until later.

I would like to think that if he laid there motionless and had to be stretchered off the field, then the response would have been different.