2019 Offseason Thread

[Mecca]

AC Green?

That's actually pretty good.

Only difference is off the court stuff.

One was a virgin 4eva and the other can't keep his Dick in his pants.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

That's actually pretty good.

Only difference is off the court stuff.

One was a virgin 4eva and the other can't keep his Dick in his pants.

Does he even bother wearing pants?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

That's actually pretty good.

Only difference is off the court stuff.

One was a virgin 4eva and the other can't keep his Dick in his pants.

AC Green was an extremely old school Christian with a high set of values that he did not preach about. He took a lot heat for that.

 

[tlance]

AC Green was an extremely old school Christian with a high set of values that he did not preach about. He took a lot heat for that.

Which is crazy. Don’t know anybody would criticize someone for that.

In high school everybody makes fun of the last virgin in their friend group.

But this is different. He was a virgin by choice.

One of my best friends in college was the same way. He was actually very successful with women. Always had a girlfriend, but waited till he was married AC Green style.

 

[trojanfan12]

That's actually pretty good.

Only difference is off the court stuff.

One was a virgin 4eva and the other can't keep his Dick in his pants.

lol

Yeah, AC wouldn't be running around with any Kardashians.

 

[dtgold88]

Yet not one person agrees with you.

Keep trying, like I said, someone might just so you STFU.

whether anyone agrees or not (they did) is irrelevant. I was able to prove with your own comments you contradicted yourself.

Good morning.

 

[dtgold88]

I won't bu

I won't but chances are you won't be around to find out being though you aren't smart enough to comprehend what the mod keeps telling you.
You just keep on being you though until we part ways.

I'll keep being me as I hope everyone is here. If it gets me banned, so be it.

If it happens, take care all and enjoy the next NBA season. Most important enjoy football season!!

 

[dtgold88]

Who do you see as his historical equivalent?

Like, I'm trying to come up with a decent comp.

He's not Rodman or even a Larry Sanders rim protecting type.

Dale Davis?

Kurt Thomas?

Skid row Charles Oakley?

I'd say he is far better player than Larry Sanders as well as Kurt Thomas. I mean, the guy was pretty much a double double guy before and after Lebron was here (and before he did it as a 20-year-old). Obviously, when you add Lebron (and have Love) his scoring and rebounding will go down some.

It's a good question and I'm not sure. I like the Dale Davis comparison. According to bball reference, ironically, Udonis Haslem is considered to be a similar player, along with Charles Smith and Maurice Lucas among others. They had Turkoglu but I don't see that one as similar.

 

[trojanfan12]

“Tristan Thompson: Thompson obviously has a history with James, and while Cleveland could probably squeeze some value out of Thompson in a trade, it should also be noted that Cleveland is nearly at the luxury tax as-is for a lottery roster. If they can save money in a buyout, it makes sense for them to do so. “


CBS has a story up about Lakers potential C replacement.

Would Gilbert help LeBron?
I doubt it.

That's interesting. I hadn't considered the Cavs saving money when I said I don't see them buying him out.

I guess it would depend on how much the buyout cost them. Not sure how buyouts work. If it's a negotiable amount and TT wants a shot at another ring, maybe he's willing to negotiate a low enough amount that the Cavs would be willing to pay it?

Wouldn't see Gilbert doing it to help Lebron, but maybe as a favor to TT who seems to have been a solid dude for them?

@dtgold88 What do you think?

From reports, it looks like things may be close between the Lakers, Charlotte and Dwightmare...but if that doesn't happen?

 

[dtgold88]

True. But I'd bet we could get close. Start with him having no offers from anyone else and go from there. End of the day, it really doesn't matter how much he was overpaid. The Cavs had no choice. It's probably at least a small win that they didn't end up paying him the max.

Going into this year, he's being overpaid by about $8.5 million, imo.

Fair, but we are talking a RFA not UFA. Teams also knew no way Cavs were letting him walk so why negotiate for them? In addition, I don't disagree for a second he was more valuable to the Cavs than to other teams at that time.

You are thinking $10 mil for him is market value? Terrence Ross is at $13 mil. M. williams got $15 mil. Morris and Portis also got $15 mil. I'd say he should be in the range of the latter 3.

Think was also a win they got 5 years and not 3 as I'm sure he would have preferred doing FA 2 years sooner.

 

[dtgold88]

AC Green?

That's a good one, too....especially with the durability.

 

[trojanfan12]

Which is crazy. Don’t know anybody would criticize someone for that.

In high school everybody makes fun of the last virgin in their friend group.

But this is different. He was a virgin by choice.

One of my best friends in college was the same way. He was actually very successful with women. Always had a girlfriend, but waited till he was married AC Green style.

Damn, that must have been tough too. In interviews I've seen with the Showtime Lakers, they all respected him for it...but still gave him shit. lol

Being able to stick to it on those Lakers teams is pretty impressive because they were like rock stars everywhere they went.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

That's interesting. I hadn't considered the Cavs saving money when I said I don't see them buying him out.

I guess it would depend on how much the buyout cost them. Not sure how buyouts work. If it's a negotiable amount and TT wants a shot at another ring, maybe he's willing to negotiate a low enough amount that the Cavs would be willing to pay it?

Wouldn't see Gilbert doing it to help Lebron, but maybe as a favor to TT who seems to have been a solid dude for them?

@dtgold88 What do you think?

From reports, it looks like things may be close between the Lakers, Charlotte and Dwightmare...but if that doesn't happen?

Who knows if there’s any merit to any of it, but if there is, it pretty much negates people (Cavs fans) saying what a great asset he is.

Cavs not even willing pay him this year so they can try to get him back for another contract?

 

[dtgold88]

I believe I suggested that possibly LeBron/Klutch got him an extra 8-10M over the duration of the contract.
You are suggesting that much this season.
Who knows?
Some here act as though they need to defend TT like he is accused of being worthless, etc..
Nobody ever said that, he's just NOWHERE close to a max type player and next summer will settle it all and prove what his current time value is.

I don't think he's a max player but next summer I doubt he is coming off a Finals' appearance where he played a huge role.

 

[dtgold88]

“Tristan Thompson: Thompson obviously has a history with James, and while Cleveland could probably squeeze some value out of Thompson in a trade, it should also be noted that Cleveland is nearly at the luxury tax as-is for a lottery roster. If they can save money in a buyout, it makes sense for them to do so. “


CBS has a story up about Lakers potential C replacement.

Would Gilbert help LeBron?
I doubt it.

I don't think Gilbert cares about Lebron one way or the other. He cares about the Cavs.

I guess anything's possible, but TT does not seem like the type of player who gets bought out. Can't think of a similar player who was. Still in his prime, a solid player, no signs of regressing, etc.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

whether anyone agrees or not (they did) is irrelevant. I was able to prove with your own comments you contradicted yourself.

Good morning.

If it was irrelevant to you, you would let it end.
Maybe offer some vcash to a couple degenerates here?
You can get them to say he’s worth a super max!

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I don't think Gilbert cares about Lebron one way or the other. He cares about the Cavs.

I guess anything's possible, but TT does not seem like the type of player who gets bought out. Can't think of a similar player who was. Still in his prime, a solid player, no signs of regressing, etc.

No reason at all, except if its another move aimed at attempting to get more lotto balls.

 

[dtgold88]

lol

Yeah, AC wouldn't be running around with any Kardashians.

hope not........they were in grade school I think (or younger).

 

[trojanfan12]

Who knows if there’s any merit to any of it, but if there is, it pretty much negates people (Cavs fans) saying what a great asset he is.

Cavs not even willing pay him this year so they can try to get him back for another contract?

To be fair, I think it would be more about the Cavs tanking than his actual value. His contract is what makes a trade difficult, not his production.

The problem for the Cavs, imo, is that with what they're paying him, it seems like they would almost have to play him (that's a lot of money to pay a guy to sit on the bench). But that may result in a few extra wins that they don't want.

 

[dtgold88]

That's interesting. I hadn't considered the Cavs saving money when I said I don't see them buying him out.

I guess it would depend on how much the buyout cost them. Not sure how buyouts work. If it's a negotiable amount and TT wants a shot at another ring, maybe he's willing to negotiate a low enough amount that the Cavs would be willing to pay it?

Wouldn't see Gilbert doing it to help Lebron, but maybe as a favor to TT who seems to have been a solid dude for them?

@dtgold88 What do you think?

From reports, it looks like things may be close between the Lakers, Charlotte and Dwightmare...but if that doesn't happen?

said in a previous post I cannot think of another player like this who was bought out. Not the type of skill he has, but still in prime, not a regressing player (could even still get better), etc. Also already has a ring with many years left seems the buyout guys are closer to retirement.