NFL Network Coming after Steelers Offense

[Fountain City Blues]

Projecting Team Wins Using DVOA

7 NE 28.1 7 3.9 4.3 6.7 9 In other words, DVOA predicted 9 wins for 2014 Patriots -
(who went on to win the Supr Bowl)

2014 New England Patriots season - Wikipedia


DVOA - "swing and a miss"

Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Or are you just bad at math?

 

[Southieinnc]

A pathetic strawman a 10 year old can debunk.

I value their pass blocking far, far, far more than their runblocking, which is probably closer to average/above average. I am literally the RBDM guy, and you seriously were dense enough to come at me with this?

The reason the Steelers were 31st is purely choice, a not irrational choice given the gap between passing and rushing, and the non-existent effect of setting up the pass with the run. It's not as though James Conner plain ole sucks and is Trent Richardson out there.

The Steelers choose to be 31st in rushing? Ok, got it.....

 

[Fountain City Blues]

The Steelers choose to be 31st in rushing? Ok, got it.....

Correct. As rushing isn't as valuable as passing, as I've said many, many, many times. It's the intelligent decision to make, provided you aren't sitting on a lead and trying to salt the game away; and yes there are other circumstances, but that's the main and obvious one.

 

[SteelersPride]

The Steelers choose to be 31st in rushing? Ok, got it.....

Well the saints used to choose to do that and their offense was quite good......... so yes some teams choose to pass more

 

[Southieinnc]

Correct. As rushing isn't as valuable as passing, as I've said many, many, many times. It's the intelligent decision to make, provided you aren't sitting on a lead and trying to salt the game away; and yes there are other circumstances, but that's the main and obvious one.

I've been called stupid for my opinion before, so not insulted.

I have showed you facts that lead me to believe my opinion on the matter.

you are trying to show me why my opinion is wrong.

While it is quite clear you diasagree, it is not so clear that you have proven my opinion stupid!

Which is more stupid?

Believing that you can change an opinion based on fact
or having an opinion based on facts that some dude on the internet doesn't choose to like?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I've been called stupid for my opinion before, so not insulted.

I have showed you facts that lead me to believe my opinion on the matter.

you are trying to show me why my opinion is wrong.

While it is quite clear you diasagree, it is not so clear that you have proven my opinion stupid!

Which is more stupid?

Believing that you can change an opinion based on fact
or having an opinion based on facts that some dude on the internet doesn't choose to like?

Nope- sorry, you're not entitled to me treating you like a petulant 8 year old.

When you say condescending and categorically wrong things, and have a history of it, you tend to get the same treatment in kind: Condescending. Get out- and find some other lame narrative that can be debunked in 5 minutes. You are not entitled to your own facts.

 

[Pure Steel]

Thing is about dropping of a little bit is that they weren't all that and a bag of Doritos last year. And the Browns have improved. Steelers IMO are playing for a wildcard.

The Patriots scored 8 more points last year, so I'm guessing they are the big family size bag of Doritos that I buy at Costco for our larger parties......

 

[Judge Fudge]

As much as I hate the Stealers. David is full of shit, like every time.

 

[rmilia1]

"OMG all this team has is a HoF QB, a great OL, a top 10 receiver and a great young back . They're so screwed !!"

Lol

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Well I can see defenses on passing downs trying to force someone other then JuJu to beat them. Can Moncrief, Washington, Johnson and company produce?
Think one of them will have to, if the Steelers are to remain a offensive machine.

 

[Southieinnc]

"OMG all this team has is a HoF QB, a great OL, a top 10 receiver and a great young back . They're so screwed !!"

I'm not saying the Steelers are screwed. I'm saying their run blocking is overated -

31st in yards per game.
DVOA puts them 12th,
Yards per carry until 1st contact 16th

Oakland Raiders: Ranking all 32 OLs by Best Run Blocking

 

[SteelersPride]

I'm not saying the Steelers are screwed. I'm saying their run blocking is overated -

31st in yards per game.
DVOA puts them 12th,
Yards per carry until 1st contact 16th

Oakland Raiders: Ranking all 32 OLs by Best Run Blocking

Come on southie, a skewed blog, you are better than that

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Come on southie, a skewed blog, you are better than that

(he's not)

Runblocking is not something I care much about as running in general isn't important to me.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Fun facts, Steelers ran 5-WRs sets more than any other team in the NFL last season.

And Roethlisberger led the league in passing yards.

They were definitely a pass-heavy offense.

 

[Southieinnc]

Come on southie, a skewed blog, you are better than that

I believe the Steelers run blocking is overrated. Why does a KC fan attack this so vehemently?

He shows his colors when he talks DVOA is so important (I recognize it is a useful tool)

Kansas City is rated #1 DVOA for 2018. That is cocaine to a KC fan

Nothing to do with the Patriots winning the AFCCG against KC!

KC beat NE last year in DVOA! Whoo - hoo!

 

[SteelersPride]

I believe the Steelers run blocking is overrated. Why does a KC fan attack this so vehemently?

He shows his colors when he talks DVOA is so important (I recognize it is a useful tool)

Kansas City is rated #1 DVOA for 2018. That is cocaine to a KC fan

Nothing to do with the Patriots winning the AFCCG against KC!

KC beat NE last year in DVOA! Whoo - hoo!

Fair enough lol

 

[SteelersPride]

Weren't all that and a bag of Dorito's last year, yep that is what I said and that is how I feel and I do think you will see more of a drop of this year. It was not a well rounded offense, they relied heavily on AB and JuJu.

Seeing as you won't answer the Steelers were at the very bottom of the league in the run game next to last I think. This was obviously the effect of losing Bell if that is a jagged pill oh well.

You talk about total yards as I said most of those came in the air because they were feeling the loss in the run game. Now you lose AB and whether you can admit it or not he was Ben's go to receiver but he is gone now. When he was on the field with Smith whom I like it afforded the Steelers a little more leeway you no longer have that threat. So now teams will double JuJu or as I said put their #1 CB on him.

So in two years you lost Ben's two main weapons the effects of the Bell lose were evident last year and I think the same will be said of the Brown loss this year. You know all those yards after the catch will drop. Again less rounded offense.

If you can't see that okay I'm cool with that, if you need the bag of Doritos take a walk to the candy machine.

right on brother. you cant acknoledge they were top 4 in yards, top 6 in points, and continue to state they werent any good. You retreat to comment about the running game. Then somehow jump to this year. The one and only thing im talking about is how they performed LAST year.

 

[eaglesnut]

Moncrief will be a good enough #2.

They're average all around, but the line is good.

 

[Southieinnc]

12th in rushing DVOA. Swing and a miss.

32 yards rushing. 21 for Conner. That is what the team that was 31st in rushing yards will get you (DVOA hell)

 

[Fountain City Blues]

32 yards rushing. 21 for Conner. That is what the team that was 31st in rushing yards will get you (DVOA hell)

Imagine thinking this is an own. Run along.