Analyze your team's draft...

[CitySushi]

Overall I thought it was a solid draft for what the Warriors wanted to accomplish. It's always going to be difficult to find quality players later in the draft, but the Warriors took two (possibly even 3) guys who they think might be able to contribute right away. Even though I wanted Carsen Edwards, Poole makes sense as a guy who can initiate his own offense and definitely will not be shy in taking big shots. He's got work to do on his body though to be able to guard at the NBA level, but I think he's already easily the best ball handler and shooter on our second unit. Not sure if that speaks to his abilities or the Warriors short comings, but probably the latter.

Paschall is a really good value pick at 41. NBAdraft.net had him going as high as 22 in their last mock previous to the draft. He's a guy that can step in right away on that second unit and be a 3/D forward. His body is NBA ready and he probably has a limited upside, but will be able to play right away I think.

Alen Smailagic will be the wild card though. Everyone thought they traded up for 41 to take him, but the Warriors ended up trading up again to take him at 39 with another pick. Seems like they gave away a lot to the Pelicans, but from all accounts the Warriors have been really high on him all year and went through lengths to hide him in Santa Cruz. He's only 18 years old with a ton of upside. They said he might even be ready to play some games for the team this year.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Overall I thought it was a solid draft for what the Warriors wanted to accomplish. It's always going to be difficult to find quality players later in the draft, but the Warriors took two (possibly even 3) guys who they think might be able to contribute right away. Even though I wanted Carsen Edwards, Poole makes sense as a guy who can initiate his own offense and definitely will not be shy in taking big shots. He's got work to do on his body though to be able to guard at the NBA level, but I think he's already easily the best ball handler and shooter on our second unit. Not sure if that speaks to his abilities or the Warriors short comings, but probably the latter.

Paschall is a really good value pick at 41. NBAdraft.net had him going as high as 22 in their last mock previous to the draft. He's a guy that can step in right away on that second unit and be a 3/D forward. His body is NBA ready and he probably has a limited upside, but will be able to play right away I think.

Alen Smailagic will be the wild card though. Everyone thought they traded up for 41 to take him, but the Warriors ended up trading up again to take him at 39 with another pick. Seems like they gave away a lot to the Pelicans, but from all accounts the Warriors have been really high on him all year and went through lengths to hide him in Santa Cruz. He's only 18 years old with a ton of upside. They said he might even be ready to play some games for the team this year.

there are no Patrick McCaw's in this draft class for the W's though unfortunately...I gotta say I nailed that one.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Garland- liked the pick. I think he was the 4th most talented guy in the draft by a fair margin. His shooting ability is just what you need in today's NBA.

I thought for sure he would go #4 when the Lakers owned the pick. Without the Davis trade I highly doubt the CAvs would have gotten him at #5.

The 2nd 1st rounder seems like a taller Joe Harris to me. A poor/homeless man's Kevin Love. Very good rebounder and 3 pt shooter, solid passer, great at running of picks....6'8" so solid size


and of course Porter Jr......I would have hated this pick if not for it being so far down. AS it is, i dont particularly like it, but at 30 they took a gamble on a kid with clear lotto talent but needs to do a lot of maturing. MAybe he gets there, maybe he doesnt- minimal risk. In a kind of crappy overall draft, taking a gamble on talent at that spot is fine. I wont hold my breath though.

I think Atlanta did a great job in this draft getting hunter and reddish, but i wouldve taken garland over either one of them.

 

[CitySushi]

there are no Patrick McCaw's in this draft class for the W's though unfortunately...I gotta say I nailed that one.

If all he did was provide some solid minutes in an NBA finals game that helped us to win a championship then he was worth his weight for that brief period of time. I still think if he wasn't a dumbass and resigned with the Warriors this year his development would have been much better, but you can't help players that don't want to be helped. Instead of McKinney out there that would have been McCaw's role. He would have been given a chance to shine.

You nailed it for him possibly being out of the league in a few years. You were absolutely wrong about the rotation part, but that's water under the bridge.

 

[WiggyRuss]

If all he did was provide some solid minutes in an NBA finals game that helped us to win a championship then he was worth his weight for that brief period of time. I still think if he wasn't a dumbass and resigned with the Warriors this year his development would have been much better, but you can't help players that don't want to be helped. Instead of McKinney out there that would have been McCaw's role. He would have been given a chance to shine.

You nailed it for him possibly being out of the league in a few years. You were absolutely wrong about the rotation part, but that's water under the bridge.

again, semantics, but i just dont consider a guy who is 11th on the team in minutes and averaging like 10 minutes a game (in the games he even played) "in the rotation" but i feel no need to re litigate this matter. I certainly dont count 6.8 minutes per game "in the rotation".

 

[CitySushi]

again, semantics, but i just dont consider a guy who is 11th on the team in minutes and averaging like 10 minutes a game (in the games he even played) "in the rotation" but i feel no need to re litigate this matter. I certainly dont count 6.8 minutes per game "in the rotation".

Yeah don't feel like traveling down that road again here either, lol.

Do you think Garland and Sexton will overlap in skillsets though? Feel like both guys can be dominant a bit with the ball in their hands. I personally think that at a certain a point a decision might need to be made on which one of them they're going to keep (ala Steph/Monta).

 

[bksballer89]

It was amazing

 

[Shanemansj13]

Yeah don't feel like traveling down that road again here either, lol.

Do you think Garland and Sexton will overlap in skillsets though? Feel like both guys can be dominant a bit with the ball in their hands. I personally think that at a certain a point a decision might need to be made on which one of them they're going to keep (ala Steph/Monta).

Could be bc Sexton isn't the typical SG, could he form into that? Maybe but probably not. The huge improvement in shooting and spot up shooting probably was the reason the Cavs just took the risk of pairing the two. I have no clue how it will turn out but adding shooters and scorers around the guys definitely helps so at least if you go this plan, you go full and not one foot in and one foot out.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Yeah don't feel like traveling down that road again here either, lol.

Do you think Garland and Sexton will overlap in skillsets though? Feel like both guys can be dominant a bit with the ball in their hands. I personally think that at a certain a point a decision might need to be made on which one of them they're going to keep (ala Steph/Monta).

oh they definitely overlap in skill set -- no doubt a bout it. I think Sexton will probably play a little bit more off the ball. Apparently Beilen likes to have 2 guards that can break a defense down in his system on opposite halves of the floor so at least they fit somewhat offensively. I mean, both seem to be high level 3 pt shooters. Both can break guys down off the dribble. From the scouting reports and what his coach said, it sounds like Garland has better court vision. Both guys should benefit from the spacing the other provides- esp. if Sexton keeps shooting the 3 like he did last year (or even close to it).

Defensively is where it will be an issue. Offensively the way both guys can shoot and break down a defense they will be fine, especially iwth Garland's passing ability and the general unselfishness and team-first mentality of Sexton. Neither one of these guys is a ball hog and adverse to passing- both, Sexton in particular, just has to develop that skill more.

Nwaba is a nice heap 2 guard option - plays solid D and will help.

At this point you take the BPA and figure it out later, but i think the system, and the great work ethic, attitude and shooting ability of each guy helps.

and more than anything thats what i like the most out of both gardner and sexton- shooting, work ethic and attitude

 

[Shanemansj13]

Garland- liked the pick. I think he was the 4th most talented guy in the draft by a fair margin. His shooting ability is just what you need in today's NBA.

I thought for sure he would go #4 when the Lakers owned the pick. Without the Davis trade I highly doubt the CAvs would have gotten him at #5.

The 2nd 1st rounder seems like a taller Joe Harris to me. A poor/homeless man's Kevin Love. Very good rebounder and 3 pt shooter, solid passer, great at running of picks....6'8" so solid size


and of course Porter Jr......I would have hated this pick if not for it being so far down. AS it is, i dont particularly like it, but at 30 they took a gamble on a kid with clear lotto talent but needs to do a lot of maturing. MAybe he gets there, maybe he doesnt- minimal risk. In a kind of crappy overall draft, taking a gamble on talent at that spot is fine. I wont hold my breath though.

I think Atlanta did a great job in this draft getting hunter and reddish, but i wouldve taken garland over either one of them.

I can see why the Cavs were enticed with Garland. They imagined Steph or Lillard in that workout. I think he is going to be a nice player but still skeptical how he will work with Sexton. We know both are phenomenal at creating their own shot and it seems like both can play off the ball, not great but at least saw a glimpse. But defensively it could be rough, from an offensive standpoint I just hope one isn't standing around and actually moving that is more important than anything.

What Darius Garland Did That Got Cavs Excited About Pairing Him With Collin Sexton

 

[dtgold88]

Garland- liked the pick. I think he was the 4th most talented guy in the draft by a fair margin. His shooting ability is just what you need in today's NBA.

I thought for sure he would go #4 when the Lakers owned the pick. Without the Davis trade I highly doubt the CAvs would have gotten him at #5.

The 2nd 1st rounder seems like a taller Joe Harris to me. A poor/homeless man's Kevin Love. Very good rebounder and 3 pt shooter, solid passer, great at running of picks....6'8" so solid size


and of course Porter Jr......I would have hated this pick if not for it being so far down. AS it is, i dont particularly like it, but at 30 they took a gamble on a kid with clear lotto talent but needs to do a lot of maturing. MAybe he gets there, maybe he doesnt- minimal risk. In a kind of crappy overall draft, taking a gamble on talent at that spot is fine. I wont hold my breath though.

I think Atlanta did a great job in this draft getting hunter and reddish, but i wouldve taken garland over either one of them.

Tough call for me if Hunter was there....admittedly, that's based more on need and fit (and love what I've heard about his D. If I had an empty roster I'd take garland so not upset at all as seems like he was their clear BPA.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah don't feel like traveling down that road again here either, lol.

Do you think Garland and Sexton will overlap in skillsets though? Feel like both guys can be dominant a bit with the ball in their hands. I personally think that at a certain a point a decision might need to be made on which one of them they're going to keep (ala Steph/Monta).

Last comment certainly a possibility. Feel like they know they aren't gonna compete now so they took BPA no matter the fit. I do wonder if they'd have taken Hunter if available.

 

[douggie]

It's already started! LOL

 

[Robotech]

Overall I thought it was a solid draft for what the Warriors wanted to accomplish. It's always going to be difficult to find quality players later in the draft, but the Warriors took two (possibly even 3) guys who they think might be able to contribute right away. Even though I wanted Carsen Edwards, Poole makes sense as a guy who can initiate his own offense and definitely will not be shy in taking big shots. He's got work to do on his body though to be able to guard at the NBA level, but I think he's already easily the best ball handler and shooter on our second unit. Not sure if that speaks to his abilities or the Warriors short comings, but probably the latter.

Paschall is a really good value pick at 41. NBAdraft.net had him going as high as 22 in their last mock previous to the draft. He's a guy that can step in right away on that second unit and be a 3/D forward. His body is NBA ready and he probably has a limited upside, but will be able to play right away I think.

Alen Smailagic will be the wild card though. Everyone thought they traded up for 41 to take him, but the Warriors ended up trading up again to take him at 39 with another pick. Seems like they gave away a lot to the Pelicans, but from all accounts the Warriors have been really high on him all year and went through lengths to hide him in Santa Cruz. He's only 18 years old with a ton of upside. They said he might even be ready to play some games for the team this year.

On another site, someone mentioned Smailagic's hair line and joked that he might really be 37 years old. But maybe he's a 37 year old with upside.

 

[msgkings322]

On another site, someone mentioned Smailagic's hair line and joked that he might really be 37 years old. But maybe he's a 37 year old with upside.

Looney looks old as fuck too. Probably goes with being really tall and big for some

 

[WiggyRuss]

Washington Wizards

Rui Hachimura- this was a solid pick. Hachimura lacks the upside of a player like REddish, but he should be a solid contributor with a versatile skill set that fits the modern NBA. I think he should be a nice complimentary piece for years.

Admiral Schofield- Another solid pick. Schofield has a pretty high floor for a second round pick. Pretty fair chance he turns into a quality rotation player. If he is able to improve his defensive positioning and footwork, he can be a good 3 and D guy.

The Wizards got 2 solid players. I don't see a ton of upside with either pick, but a team drafting without a GM could have done a lot worse.

I give them a solid B

A "B" for Hochimura?

drafting Hochimura over Reddish was pure idiocy.

It was an 8 player draft at the top.

they were lucky and had one of the top 8 drop to them at 9 and fucked it up

 

[Arizona_Sting]

no comment

 

[Robotech]

Looney looks old as fuck too. Probably goes with being really tall and big for some

No one beats Greg "Grandpa" Oden.

 

[tlance]

A "B" for Hochimura?

drafting Hochimura over Reddish was pure idiocy.

It was an 8 player draft at the top.

they were lucky and had one of the top 8 drop to them at 9 and fucked it up

Yeah, I would have taken Reddish. But he is not exactly a lock to hit.

I am okay with Hachimura.

And in typical fashion, you are greatly exaggerating your position.

There were 3 players at the top and a jumbled mess after that. There were a few that got more hype than others, but the reality is that there are a lot of players drafted after 3 who project as solid pros. Very few stars there.

And the high upside plays like Reddish and Garland are not without a lot of risk.

 

[msgkings322]

No one beats Greg "Grandpa" Oden.

The Chief (Robert Parrish)