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2019-20 Quest for the cup(The Carter Hart era begins)

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Hayes is a 2C and we needed a 2C. Other than Duchense, there were no other 2 C's available. We overpaid for the long run, but improved in the short run. We now have 3 pretty solid likes and have improved the PK with Hayes, Niskanen and Braun. With a half decent PK, we should be a much better team. Those 3 guys cost Gudas, 2nd round, 3rd round and 5th round picks.
 

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I'll wait to see what Duchesne's contract looks like before I evaluate this signing. It certainly won't be at the 6.5 mil/yr someone on here suggested back when we were discussing Hayes at 6 mil. :nono::lol:
You have to admit even if Duchene gets 9.5 million per 7.1 is a lot for Hayes.
 

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Hayes is a 2C and we needed a 2C. Other than Duchense, there were no other 2 C's available. We overpaid for the long run, but improved in the short run. We now have 3 pretty solid likes and have improved the PK with Hayes, Niskanen and Braun. With a half decent PK, we should be a much better team. Those 3 guys cost Gudas, 2nd round, 3rd round and 5th round picks.
We have improved defensively and on the PK significantly but are we a stanley cup team? Im not looking for just being improved after waiting so long for a cup.I thought we could've made better use of the second and third round picks and think if we were going to over pay for a 2nd line center we should've overpaid Duchene. But that's just me trying to get us a cup any way i can.
 

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So for everybody that thinks the Hayes deal was great and fantastick(lol) do you think this makes us cup contenders? Come on this makes us a bit better but def not for 7 yrs @ 7 mil. Fuckin ridiculous. I'm very cool with Fletcher being let go anytime. What a fuckin joke of an off season.
 

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So for everybody that thinks the Hayes deal was great and fantastick(lol) do you think this makes us cup contenders? Come on this makes us a bit better but def not for 7 yrs @ 7 mil. Fuckin ridiculous. I'm very cool with Fletcher being let go anytime. What a fuckin joke of an off season.


They are giving away draft picks and our young guns for wheel chair warriors......
And might I add overpaying them.....:L
 

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They are giving away draft picks and our young guns for wheel chair warriors......
And might I add overpaying them.....:L
I haven't read one article stating that these deals we have made have put us into cup contention and thats really all that matters.
 

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I haven't read one article stating that these deals we have made have put us into cup contention and thats really all that matters.


Agreed
 

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They are giving away draft picks and our young guns for wheel chair warriors......
And might I add overpaying them.....:L
Still hope our youngsters come along... there are a number of years of development, and I do have visions of Flyers becoming a consistent contender. Thinking about the Blues this year... a lot will have to go our way (as happened with the Blues) to bring home the hardware.

The Flyers cannot dictate the market price for players. I would go even further to say that based on the futility over the last 4 decades, and the nasty nature of the fan base, Flyers have to pay a premium to get players interested. IF we ever get to consistency and contention for the CUP, then you might see players actually wanting to come to Philly
 

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I haven't read one article stating that these deals we have made have put us into cup contention and thats really all that matters.
You should read all the twitter responses to that stupid deal, Holy fuck man that was a horrible signing, wonder what Lacaviler is doing these days,
 

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Still hope our youngsters come along... there are a number of years of development, and I do have visions of Flyers becoming a consistent contender. Thinking about the Blues this year... a lot will have to go our way (as happened with the Blues) to bring home the hardware.

The Flyers cannot dictate the market price for players. I would go even further to say that based on the futility over the last 4 decades, and the nasty nature of the fan base, Flyers have to pay a premium to get players interested. IF we ever get to consistency and contention for the CUP, then you might see players actually wanting to come to Philly
I dont mind overpaying to get a player we need especially since we have the cap room but to overpay and give the long contract i dont like doing both.
 

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Still hope our youngsters come along... there are a number of years of development, and I do have visions of Flyers becoming a consistent contender. Thinking about the Blues this year... a lot will have to go our way (as happened with the Blues) to bring home the hardware.

The Flyers cannot dictate the market price for players. I would go even further to say that based on the futility over the last 4 decades, and the nasty nature of the fan base, Flyers have to pay a premium to get players interested. IF we ever get to consistency and contention for the CUP, then you might see players actually wanting to come to Philly


You can't dictate the price, I agree, but if you're going to overpay for long term there are higher quality players out there to do it with. Fletcher had no choice but to overpay Hayes because of the situation he put himself in. If he would of list that pick just to have a conversation with Hayes fans would of are him alive. But there were also better players on the board than Hayes.
 

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You can't dictate the price, I agree, but if you're going to overpay for long term there are higher quality players out there to do it with. Fletcher had no choice but to overpay Hayes because of the situation he put himself in. If he would of list that pick just to have a conversation with Hayes fans would of are him alive. But there were also better players on the board than Hayes.
Like who? Tell me who you are getting for 7 million a year
 
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