Antonio Brown Has Been Traded to the Raiders

[eaglesnut]

Not good for the NFL that this dick got it all, a trade and a record setting contract, big guarantee. Makes me nauseous.

It's not good for the NFL that the Steelers can't keep their talent. Brown and Bell are the best players of the decade at their positions.

 

[eaglesnut]

I guess I cant disagree.
Since if he sat you fine him for what he cost you.
All the guaranteed money is cost the team anyways. As a I'll show you person. I agree.
As a Cowboys fan (if he was on the Cowboys) I would have said get rid of that loser. This is where I can see both sides.

Good news is. he went to the Raiders with not strong leadership & a Qb of no confidence. We get to watch this with popcorn

Hopefully after year one. We get to see him pull the victim card again & freak out so we can all

It would be much better, and a continuation of the current plot, if he does great, the raiders do great, and the Steelers stay pathetic.

 

[Diamondeye]

I hear ya, not what anyone wanted or expected initially, but...No it doesn't blow...when BUF was shot down they could've dragged this out by keeping AB, but I'm tired of the fucked up locker room...When Art II said it was time...it was time to move on and I for one am happy that AB is gone...Bell next.

My issue is that Brown and Bell essentially bullied the Steelers into getting what they wanted.

Rooney saying what he did was idiotic, as it reduced their leverage with teams, now knowing the Steelers were essentially afraid to bring Brown back to the team and had to move him.

The Steelers look weak and incompetent right now. It's hard to put enough makeup on this to make it look presentable.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

My issue is that Brown and Bell essentially bullied the Steelers into getting what they wanted.

Rooney saying what he did was idiotic, as it reduced their leverage with teams, now knowing the Steelers were essentially afraid to bring Brown back to the team and had to move him.

The Steelers look weak and incompetent right now. It's hard to put enough makeup on this to make it look presentable.

Bell...you're wrong on this one imo...PIT didn't cave, their choices were very limited. I do think they were surprised when he sat out the season, but new precedent was set there. I think any team would've been caught off guard.

Brown...Art II did some damage, agree with you there...but I think "afraid" is the wrong word. Brown did far more damage to his value than PIT did. (they had #9 overall on the table) While I can appreciate the hard line stance, it wasn't the best interest of the team to bring Brown back into that locker room.

Weak and incompetent are strong, but I can't sugarcoat it either...they got less than market value for Brown...but again, bringing him back was not going to increase his value at all so one can only hope the FO has learned something here and will be more proactive in the future.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Inevitable conclusion in terms of compensation

 

[mcnabb7542]

A 3rd and a 5th ?

 

[Diamondeye]

I hear ya, not what anyone wanted or expected initially, but...No it doesn't blow...when BUF was shot down they could've dragged this out by keeping AB, but I'm tired of the fucked up locker room...When Art II said it was time...it was time to move on and I for one am happy that AB is gone...Bell next.

The situation with Bell was different, but still showed a lack of strength on the Steelers part by refusing to use the leverage of the transition tag in 2019 to compel Bell to sign the franchise tag and play in 2018.

Bell misled and lied to the Steelers multiple times about his intentions to play probably because he could sense that Colbert and Rooney were weak and would not get in the way of the big pay day he is about to receive.

Brown smelled the blood in the water and went rogue as well.

You may feel that "afraid" was too strong in describing the Steelers willingness to bring Brown back, but I don't. They would not have settled for such a garbage return otherwise.

The Steelers have shown themselves to be
pussies in player disputes and we just need to hope that Brown and Bell were isolated cases, with other Steelers being mature and civil enough to not follow their lead.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

It's not good for the NFL that the Steelers can't keep their talent. Brown and Bell are the best players of the decade at their positions.

IMO...neither of these cases are bad for the NFL. The tag more of less allows a team to control a player (1st rd pick for up to 7 yrs...4 yr rookie deal, 5th yr option and 2 tags) that's far longer than the avg career in the NFL. I would say more poor management decisions by PIT.

Bell...basically it went the way of the CBA. What was weird is Bell chose to not play. Had Bell played, he would've been a FA this season...no way PIT would've tagged him a 3rd time. For his position (I don't care how good he is), chasing a RB was always a bad decision imo....once they realized they were not going to get a long term deal done, they should've traded hiim before the 1st tag.

Brown...obviously he was under contract and internally things went sideways, egos took over and we stand here today. IMO if PIT had more rein on their QB, he's not in the media calling out his team mates, we most likely never see a trade happen.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Yikes... A 3rd & a 5th?

Glad that AB is gone, but that is a very weak return. Especially when you see how loaded the Raiders' draft capital is. I'm beginning to believe that the Steelers FO is losing their edge. They look incredibly weak right now.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Having a hard time not laughing my ass off at the Steelers organization for getting fleeced by a couple of jackasses:

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Pay Rodgers and a Top WR and see what happens. The window is closing. The Packers fuck around too much.

The packers window is firmly closed.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

The situation with Bell was different, but still showed a lack of strength on the Steelers part by refusing to use the leverage of the transition tag in 2019 to compel Bell to sign the franchise tag and play in 2018.

Bell misled and lied to the Steelers multiple times about his intentions to play probably because he could sense that Colbert and Rooney were weak and would not get in the way of the big pay day he is about to receive.

Brown smelled the blood in the water and went rogue as well.

You may feel that "afraid" was too strong in describing the Steelers willingness to bring Brown back, but I don't. They would not have settled for such a garbage return otherwise.

The Steelers have shown themselves to be
pussies in player disputes and we just need to hope that Brown and Bell were isolated cases, with other Steelers being mature and civil enough to not follow their lead.

Admittedly Idk all the details of the transition tag, but most of the people that are in the know said it wasn't worth it. As you said Bell misled the team. What's the purpose of being able to match a contract in that situation? PIT didn't want him back...period...under that circumstance, there's no other reason for that type of tag. If they use it and lose him, there is no compensation.

Brown...yes, afraid is strong imo. What was to gain for bringing him back? Do you really think he was going to get 160 targets from Ben? Do you think having a disgruntled star in the locker room would benefit PIT? Help me understand that one.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

My issue is that Brown and Bell essentially bullied the Steelers into getting what they wanted.

Rooney saying what he did was idiotic, as it reduced their leverage with teams, now knowing the Steelers were essentially afraid to bring Brown back to the team and had to move him.

The Steelers look weak and incompetent right now. It's hard to put enough makeup on this to make it look presentable.

THIS!

Brown called the shots from the moment he wanted out. He trashed the Steelers chances of getting better compensation, and got paid a hefty bonus by the Raiders for doing so. Consider this the tip of the iceberg though... This sets a terrible precedent for the upcoming years in the NFL. Expect a lot more of this behavior when elite players "want out" or "want more".

I'm not buying that the "Steelers' hands were tied" bullshit. They should have stayed firm and let him rot. Settling for mid-round picks shows how weak this FO is. How pathetic.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Raiiiiiiidersssssssss

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Yikes... A 3rd & a 5th?

Glad that AB is gone, but that is a very weak return. Especially when you see how loaded the Raiders' draft capital is. I'm beginning to believe that the Steelers FO is losing their edge. They look incredibly weak right now.

The PIT FO did get fleeced, but help me with the better alternatives.

I'm not seeing much better...they had #9 overall on the table...AB said he wouldn't play there so BUF wisely backed off and other teams saw that and closed up shop as well. I don't see bringing him back as a better alternative.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

So, we went from the Steelers FO is not to be trifled with, to them being weak?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I have to give the Raiders props on the move. They basically traded Cooper, a 3rd and 5th round pick for Antonio Brown and a 1st round pick.

I don’t get how the Steelers could possibly lose two of the best offensive players in the NFL and receive next to nothing for them in return?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

The PIT FO did get fleeced, but help me with the better alternatives.

I'm not seeing much better...they had #9 overall on the table...AB said he wouldn't play there so BUF wisely backed off and other teams saw that and closed up shop as well. I don't see bringing him back as a better alternative.

Pitt was going to be on the hook for his salary cap hit anyway. Antonio Brown wasn’t in the same boat as Bell, where he was young enough , where sitting out a year wouldn’t hurt.

If Pitt brought him back — Brown would have played, because he only has a handful of years left to make money.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

THIS!

Brown called the shots from the moment he wanted out. He trashed the Steelers chances of getting better compensation, and got paid a hefty bonus by the Raiders for doing so. Consider this the tip of the iceberg though... This sets a terrible precedent for the upcoming years in the NFL. Expect a lot more of this behavior when elite players "want out" or "want more".

I'm not buying that the "Steelers' hands were tied" bullshit. They should have stayed firm and let him rot. Settling for mid-round picks shows how weak this FO is. How pathetic.

I hear ya Face, but letting him rot vs a 3rd and 5th. What does letting him rot gain PIT? IMO another season of more of the same BS drama.

Precedent...It's so rare that star players want out that I would look for the root cause here and fix that.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Pitt was going to be on the hook for his salary cap hit anyway. Antonio Brown wasn’t in the same boat as Bell, where he was young enough , where sitting out a year wouldn’t hurt.

If Pitt brought him back — Brown would have played, because he only has a handful of years left to make money.

Yes...maybe he plays....More drama for sure.